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Being called Mrs *-*

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LorlieS · 23/03/2024 00:00

I'm married and a Ms My Last Name - His Last Name (hubby also double-barrelled when we married).
So why do so many people insist on addressing me as a Mrs?! AIBU to be annoyed by this?

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CommentNow · 24/03/2024 18:56

LorlieS · 24/03/2024 15:05

@RampantIvy I'm not entirely sure the world has moved on when women are still OK with being titled by their marital status?
Why are men not titled as such I wonder?

Are you making it clear your married? Because if you're wearing a ring and changing your surname, of course people will notice and think that if you are showing people you are married that you want to be referred to as married.

I'm married I haven't told my family as we did it for legal reasons. Consequently i dont wear a ring and havent changed my name. Noone knows and all my paperwork remains "Ms".

LorlieS · 24/03/2024 18:57

@ZebraDanios I'm currently primary.

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LorlieS · 24/03/2024 18:58

@CommentNow DB'd my name to add on. As did my husband.

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ZebraDanios · 24/03/2024 19:06

@LorlieS Ah ok. Well, see if this makes you feel any better: I have just gone onto my kids’ (primary) school website and checked the titles of all their teachers, and there’s one called Ms whom I’ve been erroneously calling Mrs for years. You can see from my other responses how I feel about this issue, and I have tremendous respect for this particular teacher…yet I’ve still been calling her by the wrong title! (Though I will make an effort to get it right from now on!) Can you see how an incorrect assumption isn’t always harmful or even meaningful, however frustrating it might be?

Stormbornform · 24/03/2024 19:07

I think you are busy. Mrs is the traditional title for married women Ms was traditionally for divorcées and older unmarried women who no longer wanted to go by 'miss'. Obviously you can call yourself what you want but don't expect everyone to change their language to fit you. You want one title for all women ( I assume the one you picked Ms) I on the other hand will never be a Ms. I really dislike it. Happy with Mrs and if I wasn't married would be happy with Miss. There will be a whole range of opinions in between. My one please is to accept the range and not to start policing language.

FictionalCharacter · 24/03/2024 19:09

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 00:07

@HeddaGarbled It's not my title, nor one I wish to be referred to by.

How would people know that though?

OneMoreTime23 · 24/03/2024 19:21

Mrs is the traditional title for married women Ms was traditionally for divorcées and older unmarried women who no longer wanted to go by 'miss'. Obviously you can call yourself what you want but don't expect everyone to change their language to fit you.

I’m quite obviously an adult woman. Don’t wear a wedding ring. What assumptions are you going to make about my title?

OkPedro · 24/03/2024 19:22

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 01:52

@InWalksBarberalla Do you call your doctor by his/her first name? After all, a consultation is a direct discussion between two adults?

I've always called my Doctor by her first name as she calls me by my first name 🤷🏻‍♀️ in both my dcs schools they call their teachers by their first names. I'm glad we're moving away from the idea that a doctor/teacher etc is above anyone else and should be referred to as Mr Jones

OneMoreTime23 · 24/03/2024 19:22

CommentNow · 24/03/2024 18:56

Are you making it clear your married? Because if you're wearing a ring and changing your surname, of course people will notice and think that if you are showing people you are married that you want to be referred to as married.

I'm married I haven't told my family as we did it for legal reasons. Consequently i dont wear a ring and havent changed my name. Noone knows and all my paperwork remains "Ms".

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Quoted wrong post.

LorlieS · 24/03/2024 19:24

@OneMoreTime23 Why do either party need to "identify as married"?

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OneMoreTime23 · 24/03/2024 19:26

Quite.

I haven’t RTFT (tar and feather me now) but these things are always frequented by the “proud to be a Mrs” brigade who are weirdly unphased that it’s only women that are expected to announce their marital status to all and sundry.

For the record absolutely nothing changed about my name or identity on marriage. Nor for my husband. It’s a legal protection in the main. Not the joining of families or whatever other bollocks people expect.

CultOfRamen · 24/03/2024 19:49

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 01:08

@Chatonette Absolutely I will. Because I very strongly believe that titling women by marital status is misogynistic and I won't be a part of that.

But happy to be part of the misogynistic practice of adopting your husbands surname…..?

BIossomtoes · 24/03/2024 20:00

Bit much. Replacing your dad’s name with your husband’s isn’t particularly feminist but it’s hardly misogyny.

OneMoreTime23 · 24/03/2024 20:12

BIossomtoes · 24/03/2024 20:00

Bit much. Replacing your dad’s name with your husband’s isn’t particularly feminist but it’s hardly misogyny.

House!

i Keep forgetting that women never own their names, only men do. 🤦🏻‍♀️

CurlewKate · 24/03/2024 20:15

@Stormbornform women who didn't want to identify themselves by marital status have used Ms for many years- certainly since the 1960s. I have been Ms all my adult life-that's pushing 50 years. Ms is routinely used for adult women in the States- no suggestion of age or divorce.

LorlieS · 24/03/2024 20:16

@CultOfRamen @BIossomtoes I didn't replace my family name; I added to it (double-barrelled). My husband also did the same. Our daughter shares our last name. We are of the belief she is equally "ours" and wanted to reflect this here.
Had my husband not wanted to do this then I would have just kept my family name.
My last name in no way denotes my marital status and neither does my title.

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BIossomtoes · 24/03/2024 20:17

OneMoreTime23 · 24/03/2024 20:12

House!

i Keep forgetting that women never own their names, only men do. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Well we don’t, do we? Unless you were registered with your mum’s name.

NotQuiteNorma · 24/03/2024 20:19

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 00:15

@WhateverMate Would you be happy with being addressed by any of the four (+) titles available?

I do not wish to be referred to as Mrs anything.

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Don't get married then Mrs.

OneMoreTime23 · 24/03/2024 20:20

BIossomtoes · 24/03/2024 20:17

Well we don’t, do we? Unless you were registered with your mum’s name.

This one has had the same name since birth. Doesn’t matter where it came from, it’s definitely mine. Not on loan. MINE.

Daughter has both of our names (not DBed). They’re both hers to do with as she pleases. Not borrowed from us. Not instantly replaced should she marry. HERS.

StormingNorman · 24/03/2024 20:20

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 00:18

@InWalksBarberalla Parents. Constantly. I'm a teacher.

Wear a name badge. Parents will clock the rings and call you Mrs because that’s the norm. They can’t be expected to guess.

LorlieS · 24/03/2024 20:21

@NotQuiteNorma You're a man, right?

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OneMoreTime23 · 24/03/2024 20:21

NotQuiteNorma · 24/03/2024 20:19

Don't get married then Mrs.

FFS. It’s a legal contract. The rationale for women changing names is outdated and sexist. It’s okay to eschew it as such. Regardless of the dinosaurs still roaming around.

LorlieS · 24/03/2024 20:21

@StormingNorman What rings?

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Tontostitis · 24/03/2024 20:24

Good grief how insufferable you sound i feel for the poor kids in your classes

LorlieS · 24/03/2024 20:26

@Tontostitis Because I don't want to be addressed with an incorrect (misogynistic) title? Wow.

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