Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

I’ve reported this TikTok psycho to his employer?

508 replies

DolceGoldie · 20/03/2024 09:00

I’m not sure if I should’ve done this and I’m having some regrets now. Last night, got into a bit of a spat on TikTok my first ever and I’m embarrassed.

Saw a video of a man building a “titanic” slide for his kids where he got them to slide and then pretend they were dying. Lots of comments, and in my wine and emotional (period) state I commented that it wasn’t really funny as over 2000 people died in the titanic including children. That was it.

Two hours later check my phone and he’s sent me a barrage of abuse, including saying I should shut my mouth, get my face to take a shit? And then he hopes I die in a fatal car crash and that I get raped and murdered and that I’ve made a “fatal mistake”. Truly vile in comparison to my comments about the titanic. He had blocked me so I couldn’t respond, not that I would’ve wanted to instigate it or bothered.

So I go onto his page to have a nosy, and he’s got his full pics and videos of him playing with kids, and videos of him working for his employer including a badge and their name- so in my fury I emailed his employer telling them that this kind of person is saying these things and representing their brand and that violence against women even suggestive isn’t on. I attached a screenshot of some of the comments.

Now I feel a bit stupid and nervous this morning as it was only a TikTok spat and I’ve escalated it, at the same time why do men get away with speaking to you like that? I didn’t have anything identifying in my email or TikTok to my name or location.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
SoreAndTired1 · 20/03/2024 17:10

Marchitectmummy · 20/03/2024 16:13

Personally i don't agree with your comment, why did you even watch it? It's to watch something and then hunt the person down tp the extent you did. I wouldn't have contacted someone's place of work, you would know the implication of doing that even after wine.

She rightfully hunted him down when he gave her a DEATH THREAT and RAPE THREAT. Is that so hard to understand? Why the victim-blaming?

IncompleteSenten · 20/03/2024 17:11

PlumbersWifey · 20/03/2024 16:47

Is this a joke? When did we start blaming the victim? If he looses his job it's all on him it's not OPs problem.

Come on now. Anything and everything men do is the fault of women and anything and everything that happens to men as a result of something they chose to do is also the fault of women.

We are supposed to protect them from the consequences of their wrongdoings so naturally any consequences we fail to shield them from are our fault.

Butchyrestingface · 20/03/2024 17:14

DolceGoldie · 20/03/2024 13:17

Thanks all, I guess this morning in the light of day I just felt like I’d instigated it with my comment about it being inappropriate and made a rod for my own back but his comments were truly disgusting. No word from his employer yet.

i do have the screenshots from this whole thing if anyone wanted to see them privately but they have my first name in (as it’s in my user) and his full name so hesitant to post them.

Never mind sending screenshots to strangers online. Have you called the police?

His final comments to you (over some fairly tame criticism about a post) were unhinged and bordering on a threat to your life. And now you've - rightly - reported him to his employer. I would be contacting the police as a sensible precaution.

SoreAndTired1 · 20/03/2024 17:14

mydamnfootstuckinthedoor · 20/03/2024 17:09

Your response was unnecessary. At the same time, his response was OTT. Reporting to his employers was not on - what on earth are they supposed to do about it? You should have, and still should, report to police.

It was very necessary. Many employers have a social media policy whereby if the company is linked to vile behaviour from an employee, the employee can be terminated. Many employees sign Social Media contracts as part of their employment.

Redcar78 · 20/03/2024 17:14

SoreAndTired1 · 20/03/2024 17:09

Not true at all. Many employers have a social media policy whereby if the company is linked to vile behaviour from an employee, the employee can be terminated. Many employees sign Social Media contracts as part of their employment.

You're wrong, you can't legally dismiss for 'vile behaviour' outside work if it's not affected your business in any way and the onus is on you to prove that damage to the business 🤷‍♀️ writing something in a policy doesn't make it legal and if you read them you'll notice they're very carefully worded in most instances, it's unlikely they'd be a blanket ban on vile behaviour, which doesn't have a clear definition and means different things to different people.

SoreAndTired1 · 20/03/2024 17:16

Redcar78 · 20/03/2024 17:14

You're wrong, you can't legally dismiss for 'vile behaviour' outside work if it's not affected your business in any way and the onus is on you to prove that damage to the business 🤷‍♀️ writing something in a policy doesn't make it legal and if you read them you'll notice they're very carefully worded in most instances, it's unlikely they'd be a blanket ban on vile behaviour, which doesn't have a clear definition and means different things to different people.

No, you are the one that is wrong. If the business is identifiable, and threats of rape and death threats are made by a person who is identifiable from it, they can be sacked. It has happened before. You are deeply ill-informed.

pimplebum · 20/03/2024 17:16

Report to police
Giving threats is a crime

Redcar78 · 20/03/2024 17:17

SoreAndTired1 · 20/03/2024 17:16

No, you are the one that is wrong. If the business is identifiable, and threats of rape and death threats are made by a person who is identifiable from it, they can be sacked. It has happened before. You are deeply ill-informed.

You'd really be better off going to the police 🤷‍♀️

Daylightsavingscrime · 20/03/2024 17:17

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Nice bit of victim blaming there

MrMucker · 20/03/2024 17:18

It doesn't matter who was right or wrong, irrelevant, what's done is done. He is now likely to become more inflamed and want to retaliate even worse, so the sensible thing to do is to report him to the police asap.
Even if he has no access to your place of work (you believe) there are many ways he could now try to spew even worse venom.

Onceuponatimeiwasahoe · 20/03/2024 17:19

Your first comment was right. How is that even funny that people died so horribly by drowning.

Second he is disgusting. Wishing rape and death on a complete stranger is not normal

Onceuponatimeiwasahoe · 20/03/2024 17:20

Emailing the employer well ... such as life

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 20/03/2024 17:20

If you have screenshots or evidence of his vile threats, you should also show them to the police. Rape and murder threats are surely a crime and at the very least someone with authority needs to have a word with him

NotQuiteNorma · 20/03/2024 17:22

Well I suppose if you're going to go picking fights after wine o'clock with random strangers at least get your facts straight. More than 2000 people did not die on the Titanic. Check your facts.

His barrage was all part of the same response over the same time frame, he then blocked OP. That is not harassment. The legal definition of harassment is to continue the behaviour on more than just the one occasion. He didn't continue.

Reporting him to his employer (after stalking him on social media to find out who he was) was not 'absolutely the right thing to do'. Contacting the police and using the report function on Tiktok was the right thing to do.

Neither of which the OP seems to have done. All this after a factually incorrect response from OP in the first place.

Killinginthenimya · 20/03/2024 17:23

Redcar78 · 20/03/2024 17:14

You're wrong, you can't legally dismiss for 'vile behaviour' outside work if it's not affected your business in any way and the onus is on you to prove that damage to the business 🤷‍♀️ writing something in a policy doesn't make it legal and if you read them you'll notice they're very carefully worded in most instances, it's unlikely they'd be a blanket ban on vile behaviour, which doesn't have a clear definition and means different things to different people.

Most state about harassing, abuse, racism, derogatory comments, etc towards people, bringing business into it, such as showing where you work.

Lwrenn · 20/03/2024 17:23

@DolceGoldie im proud of you pal!
I've also been on the receiving end of death and rape threats (more that I'd like to count from the broflakes online)

I wish with one I'd gone the police over but he probably would have used a vpn.

My pal Rosie found one bloke who kept repeatedly sending her threats along side unsolicited dick pictures and she sent them to every person on his friends list, including his mum.

ntmdino · 20/03/2024 17:26

Here's the thing: I always taught my daughter to never start a fight when you don't know how far the other person is going to be willing to go, no matter how right you are.

We live in an age of deepfakes, misinformation and outright forgery that's impossible to detect. He doesn't sound particularly intelligent, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have an equally-nuts-but-also-very-tech-savvy friend who would be willing to track you across social media sites, identify you and retaliate...and there are lots of tools available for that.

It's one thing to have an online spat with someone (which you started, without invitation), but it's quite something else when you take that into the real world (which you also did), thus inviting him to do the same - and, if he loses his job because of it, his line of decent conduct is going to be far, far south of yours.

As in the original lesson I gave my daughter...you might be right, and the other person might go to jail for breaking your nose...but you've still got a broken nose.

Sometimes, "being right on the Internet" isn't adequate compensation for the consequences that follow.

0sm0nthus · 20/03/2024 17:29

another proto hominid with zero impulse control
well done for reporting OP

Figgygal · 20/03/2024 17:30

Report the nasty dickhead to the police too op

Muffins34 · 20/03/2024 17:32

DolceGoldie · 20/03/2024 13:17

Thanks all, I guess this morning in the light of day I just felt like I’d instigated it with my comment about it being inappropriate and made a rod for my own back but his comments were truly disgusting. No word from his employer yet.

i do have the screenshots from this whole thing if anyone wanted to see them privately but they have my first name in (as it’s in my user) and his full name so hesitant to post them.

@DolceGoldie Can I see them privately OP?

Muffins34 · 20/03/2024 17:34

@DolceGoldie btw you did nothing wrong, I’m sick of men getting away with abusive threatening messages. He’ll think twice about ever doing this to another woman now !!

5128gap · 20/03/2024 17:37

NotQuiteNorma · 20/03/2024 17:22

Well I suppose if you're going to go picking fights after wine o'clock with random strangers at least get your facts straight. More than 2000 people did not die on the Titanic. Check your facts.

His barrage was all part of the same response over the same time frame, he then blocked OP. That is not harassment. The legal definition of harassment is to continue the behaviour on more than just the one occasion. He didn't continue.

Reporting him to his employer (after stalking him on social media to find out who he was) was not 'absolutely the right thing to do'. Contacting the police and using the report function on Tiktok was the right thing to do.

Neither of which the OP seems to have done. All this after a factually incorrect response from OP in the first place.

Nice try. But you don't get to hide a man who wishes a woman would be raped murdered and die in a car crash behind a factual error on the part of the OP. His behaviour is too big and ugly to be concealed behind such a trivial misstep. Nor do you get to play around with language to frame her as culpable by your use of 'stalking' while using your wiki legal knowledge to absolve him of harassing her. You really should be ashamed of yourself for even trying. If its so important to you to leap to the defence of men, why in the wide world would you pick this one?

Alwaysgoingforit · 20/03/2024 17:39

Two of my dh's relatives died on Titanic and two survived. It's nothing to laugh at. Shit for brains is one sick fuck, and deserves a good kicking in every respect.

0sm0nthus · 20/03/2024 17:44

Imagine having an ego so fragile that you explode like that!

ruhroh · 20/03/2024 17:45

YANBU for reporting his abusive overreaction. However the Titanic was in 1912 so YABVVU. Do you also get offended at Ice Age and Black Plague jokes, just think of all the victims...

Swipe left for the next trending thread