New study: Millions of men ‘would xesually abuse children if secrecy was assured’ — The Times

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New study: Millions of men ‘would xesually abuse children if secrecy was assured’ — The Times.

A new study has revealed a shocking proportion of Australian men would abuse children “if no one found out”.

The research, conducted by the University of New South Wales, found “concerning” patterns, including that one in six Australian men said they had feelings for children under the age of 18, with 48 per cent of those answering being aged over 54.

One in 15 men questioned admitted they would have xesual contact with a child under the age of 14 if “no one found out”, while one in 25 said the same about children under 10.

The odds of a respondent saying they would have had xes with someone under the age of 18 was 10 times higher if they were aged over 65.

The survey, which questioned over 1900 men aged between 18 and 65 years old, is the world’s largest child sexual abuse perpetration prevention survey of its kind.

The study was welcomed by those who say that the common nature of xesual violence against women needs to be studied at the perpetrator level as well as with victims.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-of-men-would-sexually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-sure-ncf9lx5v7

AIBU to be find it disturbing that these were the men only willing to admit it and its probably alot higher??

Reminds me of that red*it thread about men getting aroused changing their daughters diapers or that other study that showed men would happily commit rape if they were assured to never be revealed/caught.

What can we as women/parents/men that don't fall into the above statistics do to combat this ? How can we ensure our sons are not thinking these thoughts are ok?

Completely agree!

Honestly, I don't think this is all that shocking when it comes to teens at least. I mean, it's appalling and quite grotesque to think about, but is it shocking..?

We often talk about female intuition and on MN 'trust your gut' and 'biological clock ticking', 'mother's instinct', etc. But clearly men are also driven by their hormones and inbuilt urges and instincts.

We - quite rightly - do not agree with or condone it, but this is their biology laid bare, isn't it?

I have no doubt that if it wasn't for societal norms and (hopefully) learned behaviour, most men of all ages would seek out sex with teenage girls. Why wouldn't they be instinctively drawn to the females in their reproductive prime if nothing was stopping them?

Luckily, civilised society sees to it that we don't accept that as being ok.

Anything that seeks to in anyway normalise or otherwise make it appear acceptable is a real danger to females because the biology isn't going to change.

I hear Costco do really good deals on their kitchen foil if you run out when making your Easter bonnet

11 for me. And in groups, suggesting that men are fine with other men harassing girls in the street. No one ever stopped them and they did it in public.

I think a lot of men classify girls (sometimes boys) into children and 'children'. Quite a large proportion think puberty equates to adulthood for the purposes of them being disgusting. They seem incapable of assessing age. Odd because it's very very obvious.

Not a clue, but it's more accurate than using the word paedophilia, which is a specific psychosexual disorder manifesting as an attraction to pre-pubertal children.

Minor-attracted persons covers many more people than paedophile does. It's right that we look at those who are attracted to all minors, not just those who have not gone through puberty.

Its not a legitimate sexual orientation, so its not an accurate term.

That is absolutely horrifying. So scary to think that so many men walking around have these desires to hurt our children.

Very interesting about the age thing. Could explain how people say "he never touched me when I was a kid" about abusers, you're not born a child abuser, you develop into one. 30 years ago he might not have had the desire, but now you have young children and he's older, he does.

It actually makes me very uncomfortable about the men in my DSs life.

Well how privileged you are to be able to write it all off as conspiracy, pretend PIE never happened and jump to the defence of nonces. Lucky, lucky you.

Doesn’t carry the same stigma does it? I’m sure that makes these men a lot more comfortable.

Statistics.

Bizarre responses. People are just making reasonable points and expressing concern about any attempt to move away from the stigmatising of paedophiles.

I think the discussions around the MAP movement have slightly moved away from another important point about male sexually more generally. I think that most men are sickened by the idea of having sex with pre-pubescent children. But as girls sexually mature and their bodies change then this can attract the attention of men. This happens many years before 16, as many posters have pointed out.

It’s because they have no arguement, so don’t want to engage, just trying to shut down the conversation with insults, which makes you wonder about their motivation frankly.

Not surprised at all.

Sexual abuse is much more common in my view than the stats show. My experience will be skewed as I am ethnically Indian, but on my count more than half of friends/relatives my age who I am close enough to have a discussion have been abused ranging from being groped to rape. In Indian communities the problem is worse as men know that women will not speak out for fear of the shame. Even amongst my non Indian friends the rate of assault and rape is far higher than any stats I have seen. Sadly this does point to a large minority of men being capable of abuse. A sobering thought for us as parents.

I'm less interested in stigma than I am in protecting ALL minor children from those who are sexually attracted to them, be that from paedophiles, hebephiles, or just awful men.

They seem to be talking a lot of sense to me.

So you are advocating for using terms that aren’t accurate because they sound worse?

Odd hill to stand on

I believe a lot of of men would sexually assault and rape women if they could get away with it. We had a discussion one lunch time at work as to what would happen if there were no police . A man piped up "Imagine all the rapes that would go on " my blood ran cold .

you didn’t make a reasonable point

That’s the issue here

You are not expressing concern, you’re peddling a conspiracy theory.

Who is defending anyone? Except correct use of the English language

I have always believed this.

This is why sex segregation is important and required to keep women safe.

Women and girls need safe spaces.

@LadySlipper doesn’t use child porn, it was men in her building! You need to pay more attention because that accusation is totally baseless and damaging.

You misunderstood her post - its the term 'child porn' she is objecting to. She isn't accusing PP of using it.
The accepted term is 'images of child abuse' since children cannot consent to appearing in pornography.

I agree and it often gets passed off as group psychology when they enable each other in public to catcall/harass and follow in public. Alongside the desire to intimidate I'd suggest it is more about fragile male ego's needing a weaker victim to have power over, with the justification that everyone else in the group was doing it too. I think peadophila and rape are two sides of the same coin; both borne from a desire to control physically because of a fragile ego. These attitudes are seeing a resurgence from sources such that twat who shall not be named who was arrested recently, telling men they are meant to dominate and have power over women and expressing that is their duty as a male. Easier than reflecting on why physical power means more to them than a healthy emotional life and growth psychology, clearly.

It's a pretty standard occurrence in wartime.

Unfortunately the amount of men that would do this doesn't surprise me.

I agree a lot of men would consider a person of primary school age as a child but secondary school as something else so the boundary a lot of them place around what constitutes a child is different to the majority of women.
I know as someone who developed early, needing a bra at 11 meant that the fact I was a child was overlooked and I was subject to some very questionable behaviour from men my dads age 🤢

What surprised me in that study is that the older men were the more likely they'd be to have sex with someone under 18.