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Four children 1-14 years sharing room

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Parques · 18/03/2024 12:39

AIBU to think it's ridiculous and irresponsible that 4 children (same sex - male) aged from 1-14 are sharing a bedroom? There is a fifth child - a girl - who has her own room. There are no funds to extend/loft conversion etc. The children were all planned. No multiple births.

OP posts:
Comedycook · 18/03/2024 18:24

fluffykittens208 · 18/03/2024 18:18

I grew up in a house with 8 bathrooms, a tv room, 3 living rooms, 7 bedrooms (grandparents never got on and had separate bedrooms) but still shared with my sister until university..one room was my parent's study, one spare room was a toy room, another room was a guest room. My mum who shared a bed with 6 siblings didn't see it as strange nor did my father who shared a room with his brother until he married. They thought it was important i learn to share and it served me quite well cos i coped fine with sharing a 3 bed London terraced with dh's 3 sisters, his mum and dh after i graduated from university which is what enabled us to start our careers and buy our London flat without my dad having to buy our house for us.

It was a big room though and we had desks and wardrobes. When I came to the UK to study, I hated having my own room.. I think privacy is a very western concept perhaps borne out of post war prosperity. In my home country we became prosperous roughly in the 1980s so our parents still have memories of far more cramped living conditions and don't see anything wrong with it.

The uk is getting poorer though so i am not sure hanging onto these expectations from more prosperous times is so practical unless we completely change our system. I even saw a rightmove ad where someone who got bought her own london flat in Bloomsbury actually lived in it all the way until she had two children sharing the tiny room in bunk beds. If the rich have to do that, what do we expect the poor to do.

In any city or semi desirable town post 2030, I expect the poor to live in one room, the middle income (two civil servants or two teachers) to rent two bed flats, bankers and software developers (without family money) to own 2 bed flats or two bed terraces in less desirable towns or up north (for those who can work remotely) and for the truly desirable housing (victorian terraces in London/SE and semis with 3-4 bedrooms) to be for the hedge fund managers, traders or those with family money. As the old die off their inheritance would be consumed in end of life costs and care home fees so eventually the equity in their homes will be whittled down and then further split between the descendants.

Edited

You shared a room but sounds like the house was huge...so presumably you could get peace and quiet when you wanted it.

lala567 · 18/03/2024 18:26

So the twist is the op has 5 kids and 4 share. Do you still think it's acceptable now?

I'm joking but I'm sure if it was the other way round you would still be putting that boot in.

It's toxic on here. How is this situation "normal?"

Sharing a bedroom with ONE sibling 5 years younger / older is totally different to sharing a bedroom with THREE siblings with up to a 14 year gap.

Redcar78 · 18/03/2024 18:26

Don't be silly, up until fairly recently this was entirely normal, both my parents are one of 5 and they all had to share rooms in 2/3 bed houses. My FIL is one of 7 and shared a room with 3 of his brothers until he was 20. Your own room as a child is nice but not a right FFS.

Nospecialcharactersplease · 18/03/2024 18:27

WhingeInTheWillows · 18/03/2024 14:06

I was one of four children. Three bed house, one boy in his own room and three girls sharing. I absolutely hated it, no privacy, no room. My parents didn’t have enough money to move because they had so many kids to support. Absolutely irresponsible. I decided I’d never do that to my own children.

This was my set up too and I absolutely hated it. So many sacrifices each of us made - no sleepovers, no extra curriculars, moving out really young, being leant on to look after the younger ones etc. And the noise! And the squabbling!

I am yet to start my family mid thirties because frankly I’m still haunted by it all. But I can tell you now any I do have won’t be sharing rooms.

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:27

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:24

And on the flip side, many people can't stand their siblings.

I'm sure you're right. But I don't know any of them.

In fact everybody I know without exception appears to view their siblings as a source of support if not companionship.

Kalevala · 18/03/2024 18:28

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:24

And on the flip side, many people can't stand their siblings.

I don't get along well with one sibling, but few people would say don't have more than one child in case they don't get along.

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:29

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:27

I'm sure you're right. But I don't know any of them.

In fact everybody I know without exception appears to view their siblings as a source of support if not companionship.

And I don't know any miserable only children either. Seems weird to me.

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:30

Kalevala · 18/03/2024 18:28

I don't get along well with one sibling, but few people would say don't have more than one child in case they don't get along.

Yes, sure. But no one needs to be having 5 kids and making 4 of them share a room. Even 2 sharing a room isn't bad.

Kalevala · 18/03/2024 18:31

lala567 · 18/03/2024 18:26

So the twist is the op has 5 kids and 4 share. Do you still think it's acceptable now?

I'm joking but I'm sure if it was the other way round you would still be putting that boot in.

It's toxic on here. How is this situation "normal?"

Sharing a bedroom with ONE sibling 5 years younger / older is totally different to sharing a bedroom with THREE siblings with up to a 14 year gap.

I don't see why the age gap matters. I'd have chosen to share with my youngest sibling with an 11 year gap if she had been triplets, over my close in age sibling.

Kpo58 · 18/03/2024 18:32

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:29

And I don't know any miserable only children either. Seems weird to me.

Maybe you just haven't asked around enough? I hated being an only child and I made sure that I had more than one.

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:33

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:29

And I don't know any miserable only children either. Seems weird to me.

It does?

People can and do have different experiences in this world. I know only one only child of my generation. It wasn't the norm in the nineties within my area.
Similarly it seems usual for those with siblings to have mutually supportive, even if geographically distant relationships with them. Particularly when parents are in poor health/pass away.

Kalevala · 18/03/2024 18:33

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:30

Yes, sure. But no one needs to be having 5 kids and making 4 of them share a room. Even 2 sharing a room isn't bad.

I don't think the number in itself is an issue, or the age gap.

GoodnightAdeline · 18/03/2024 18:34

Vettrianofan · 18/03/2024 17:41

I know at least two families in a similar situation where I live.

Three sons shoved in one room so that the youngest child (yes that's right, a girl!) gets a lovely spacious bedroom all to herself.

Wrong IMO.
I have four the same sex but two to a bedroom so it's reasonable. Everyone treated equally.

I feel sorry for families where the youngest is opposite sex of the older ones and treated differently.

I know a local family who have 5 sons in a 2 bedroom house. They’re going to keep going until they get a girl. No plans to move house. It’s awful

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:34

Kalevala · 18/03/2024 18:33

I don't think the number in itself is an issue, or the age gap.

YOU might not, but the children might.

MsPloddingBottom · 18/03/2024 18:35

lala567 · 18/03/2024 18:26

So the twist is the op has 5 kids and 4 share. Do you still think it's acceptable now?

I'm joking but I'm sure if it was the other way round you would still be putting that boot in.

It's toxic on here. How is this situation "normal?"

Sharing a bedroom with ONE sibling 5 years younger / older is totally different to sharing a bedroom with THREE siblings with up to a 14 year gap.

Half the people saying this is normal are probably parents who've switched it up to say they were the child in the situation. Or just crabs in a bucket who think that because they lived in overcrowding, it's no issue.

The "my parents divorced/were emotionally distant/slapped me occasionally /never let me out/didn't let me have friends round/bathed us weekly/didn't have central heating etc and I turned out fine" line.

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:36

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:33

It does?

People can and do have different experiences in this world. I know only one only child of my generation. It wasn't the norm in the nineties within my area.
Similarly it seems usual for those with siblings to have mutually supportive, even if geographically distant relationships with them. Particularly when parents are in poor health/pass away.

Yeah, I do find it weird. I never get the concept of missing what you never had. I know different people feel different things, but you seem to be projecting your own feelings onto the situation.

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:39

Kpo58 · 18/03/2024 18:32

Maybe you just haven't asked around enough? I hated being an only child and I made sure that I had more than one.

See, this is what I don't get.

You "made sure" you had more than one because you assumed that your children would feel the same as you.

Comedycook · 18/03/2024 18:41

Personally I love having a sibling...I wish I had more...but I don't think I'd have enjoyed the set up the ops describing.

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:41

Kpo58 · 18/03/2024 18:32

Maybe you just haven't asked around enough? I hated being an only child and I made sure that I had more than one.

And the irony here is you had a miserable experience growing up so you didn't want your children to have the same, but people on this thread say it's fine to shove 4 kids in a room together because "they'll cope" and "who cares" if they don't like it. Bizarre.

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:42

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:36

Yeah, I do find it weird. I never get the concept of missing what you never had. I know different people feel different things, but you seem to be projecting your own feelings onto the situation.

With respect, as do you.

I don't miss siblings I never had. I agree that you can't miss what you haven't experienced.

I have never liked being an only child. I found it very hard when I lost my father very suddenly and at a young age.

I have been envious of friends' sibling relationships as they seem so supportive of each other during life's hardships and celebrate and are proud of each other's successes in a way in which friends don't seem to be able to be, through no fault of the friendship. Simply a lack of family ties, shared memories and investment in each other's lives and ongoing well being.

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:43

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:42

With respect, as do you.

I don't miss siblings I never had. I agree that you can't miss what you haven't experienced.

I have never liked being an only child. I found it very hard when I lost my father very suddenly and at a young age.

I have been envious of friends' sibling relationships as they seem so supportive of each other during life's hardships and celebrate and are proud of each other's successes in a way in which friends don't seem to be able to be, through no fault of the friendship. Simply a lack of family ties, shared memories and investment in each other's lives and ongoing well being.

Not at all. I think people with siblings can be incredibly happy with their set ups, as can only children. But you'll never convince me that a teenager enjoys sharing a room with 3 other siblings including a baby and that it's all "happy families".

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:45

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:39

See, this is what I don't get.

You "made sure" you had more than one because you assumed that your children would feel the same as you.

Conversely it's absolutely fine to have less children if you disliked sharing a room?

Because that decision would also be predicated on the very same assumption.

So I'm unsure what exactly you are struggling to understand.

NotCute · 18/03/2024 18:47

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:43

Not at all. I think people with siblings can be incredibly happy with their set ups, as can only children. But you'll never convince me that a teenager enjoys sharing a room with 3 other siblings including a baby and that it's all "happy families".

Again, with respect that hasn't been the point of my conversation with you.

You are labouring under a misapprehension if you think that it has and I suggest you go back and read from the point at which we began to communicate on this thread.

Kalevala · 18/03/2024 18:49

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:34

YOU might not, but the children might.

So, no siblings, just in case? You could have one sibling and fight like cat and dog. You could have six and get along.

Beezknees · 18/03/2024 18:51

Kalevala · 18/03/2024 18:49

So, no siblings, just in case? You could have one sibling and fight like cat and dog. You could have six and get along.

Where did I say no siblings? I said FOUR siblings from ages 14 to 1 sharing a room is awful.

If you have enough rooms to have 6 kids, have 6 kids. But forcing 4 to share will never be OK.

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