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Do you believe in Ghosts?

270 replies

dottiedodah · 17/03/2024 13:55

just that really ,found some interesting things online that made me think .YABU ghosts dont exist YANBU could be something in it

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Cleaningupthemess · 17/03/2024 19:31

And does the same apply to mosquitos, for example ?

i should think with the amount of mosquitos that get swatted to death. Spread with insecticides etc, there are billions of phantom mosquitos buzzing about. The thing is does their sting get resurrected?

Hedgerow2 · 17/03/2024 19:35

Snippit · 17/03/2024 18:53

I was sceptical until we moved to our current house 10 years ago. I believe it’s what you might call a mischievous spirit. Ornaments flying off cabinets, being moved overnight. One night whilst in bed it honestly sounded like the wardrobe had fallen over. Even my sceptical husband couldn’t put a scientific spin on that one. We’ve even heard knocking on the bedroom wall, and there’s no one in the spare room. I was even contemplating having my neighbour who was a vicar coming and blessing the house. I had ornaments flying off the bedroom window boards out of the open windows, I watched them falling whilst sitting in the room below, so surreal. It happened more than once. We also had mirrors that not only fell off the wall, no broken strings, but launched themselves several feet away from the wall.

The final straw came when there was a loud banging coming from the dining room, the dogs were all on tenterhooks wondering what on earth was happening. I got up and basically shouted at whatever was causing it, I’d had enough, told them it was time to stop as they were frightening the dogs. This was 3 years ago and we haven’t heard anything since, fingers crossed. I have no explanation for it and I’m still mystified by the strange goings on. No one has died in the house, and none of the previous neighbours had any strange goings on.

Probably an airlock in your water pipes: we get this intermittently and it does sound like knocking.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 17/03/2024 19:39

Yes

PeterGabrielsunderpants · 17/03/2024 19:42

T0ASTER · 17/03/2024 19:27

According to certain Buddhist and Hindu teachings, a soul which has left its body only becomes a ghost under certain conditions, such as undergoing a violent or premature death, or not having the correct funeral rituals performed, or being deeply attached to things, places or people.

And does the same apply to mosquitos, for example ?

I've no idea.

Alwaystired23 · 17/03/2024 19:42

Howbizarre22 · 17/03/2024 18:13

I think it’s depressing to believe that the only things in existence are only the things we have evidence for. In fact it borders on arrogance to think we as humans already know absolutely everything about everything. Science as a study is amazing & incredible as is the world we know don’t get me wrong but just because we can’t explain something, doesn’t mean it isn’t real or doesn’t exist. Better to keep an open mind.

I agree with you. I also like to keep an open mind. For example, telepathy between twins, I find things like that fascinating. I've been pres et before, during, and after lots of deaths. Sometimes, I definitely feel like I feel things, sometimes lovely peace. I can't describe it, it's so calm.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/03/2024 19:43

IncompleteSenten · 17/03/2024 19:11

I presume the afterlife has rules. You have to haunt the place you died. Like that film beetlejuice.

I think you’ve cracked it! The Standards and Conduct Committee of the Afterlife must draw up a list of rules - possibly with a spooky arbitration panel available for difficult cases.

So if someone is near death in one place - say the back of an ambulance - but is declared dead in A&E, they could maybe get the right to choose where to haunt. Or if the Roman house is now under an Aldi, maybe they could get permission to hang around in the car park and haunt there instead.

And do they have dress codes and decency rules? Like Stone Age ghosts have to cover up with loin cloths. Or people who die in the nude have to wear the ever-popular ghostly white sheet.

I wonder what happens if a ghost doesn’t obey and, say, tries to haunt the bingo club instead of the place they died. Ghost prison?

Howbizarre22 · 17/03/2024 19:44

HermioneWeasley · 17/03/2024 18:23

@Howbizarre22 you are right, humans don’t know everything. We do however know some things, and ghosts are incompatible with our knowledge of how the universe works.

But we know hardly anything about how the universe works. The fact that we know nothing about how far the universe stretches out and could actually be eternal for example goes against our knowledge of how things work. Just because an idea goes against the stuff we know about does not mean it doesn’t exist

Microdisney · 17/03/2024 19:52

Howbizarre22 · 17/03/2024 19:44

But we know hardly anything about how the universe works. The fact that we know nothing about how far the universe stretches out and could actually be eternal for example goes against our knowledge of how things work. Just because an idea goes against the stuff we know about does not mean it doesn’t exist

And the people who come up with this stuff (‘science will one day prove my Anything Might Be True worldview!’) are just revealing how little they know about what we do actually know.

IWanderedLonely · 17/03/2024 19:53

Yes I believe totally. And no, I don't need patronising by a scientific bully.

Prydddan · 17/03/2024 19:55

NooNakedJacuzziness · 17/03/2024 17:54

Nah - no-one ever sees ghosts in 80s shellsuits or 70s flares, always old fashioned long dresses.

How do you know that the bloke you just saw turning the corner (who was wearing jeans and a T) wasn't a ghost?

If he was wearing knockerbockers you'd notice and wonder, but a bloke in a T?

Prydddan · 17/03/2024 19:57

NooNakedJacuzziness · 17/03/2024 17:54

Nah - no-one ever sees ghosts in 80s shellsuits or 70s flares, always old fashioned long dresses.

The last ghost I saw was wearing cargo trousers and an anorak. He had a black Lab on a lead.

IncompleteSenten · 17/03/2024 19:57

Knockerbockers would make a great big bra brand name

Toetouchingtitties · 17/03/2024 19:57

Show me the ghost of a stegosaurus and I might believe in them

LaWench · 17/03/2024 19:59

No. I don't believe in religions or any woo. I'm a cynic and require evidence or proof to believe anything.
I like the idea of it ghosts though.

Howbizarre22 · 17/03/2024 19:59

Hundreds of years ago if you told the people that we would one day be actually able to speak to someone in real time who is on the other side of the planet or that we could manage almost our entire lives through a thin little box in our hands instantaneously or that we could walk on the moon if we wanted they would have the same attitude a lot of people on here have. Eg “that’s impossible, it is laughable, your nuts if you believe such nonsense that goes against everything we’ve ever known about the world-that stuff simply can not be explained nor could ever be true”

decionsdecisions62 · 17/03/2024 20:00

We've only had this very dogmatic scientific view for a couple of hundred years. Prior to that belief in spirits and an afterlife existed for thousands of years. I suppose what it shows me is how restricted we have become by this view that everything must be data driven.

Hairdilemma12 · 17/03/2024 20:00

T0ASTER · 17/03/2024 19:27

According to certain Buddhist and Hindu teachings, a soul which has left its body only becomes a ghost under certain conditions, such as undergoing a violent or premature death, or not having the correct funeral rituals performed, or being deeply attached to things, places or people.

And does the same apply to mosquitos, for example ?

@T0ASTER you think you're being such an edgelord, but you're really boring 😴

EveryKneeShallBow · 17/03/2024 20:02

My husband and I discussed this a lot. We made a pact with little secret signs and messages so we would know it was genuine if one of us died and was trying to communicate. We had many, many long intellectual, philosophical conversations into the night, and we both wanted it to be true. I am a widow, and I’ve never had any reason to believe in ghosts.

BobbyBiscuits · 17/03/2024 20:04

@Mammajay haha. My house is 200 years old and I've yet to require Ghostbusters. Bill Murray on his own once, but he was looking for a strip club...

IncompleteSenten · 17/03/2024 20:08

I don't think it's a bad thing to think logically and feel that evidence is important if you're going to believe that something is real.

Prydddan · 17/03/2024 20:12

IncompleteSenten · 17/03/2024 19:01

I'll be more than willing to shout from the rooftops I'm completely wrong and ghosts are real...
The second someone shows some proof. Scientific proof. Lab conditions. Verified by further studies. Actual evidence.

I've got no problem taking out a billboard sign saying I was totally wrong.

There are scientific studies -lots of them - that provide evidence for such phenomena as telepathy, being able to tell when you're being watched, remote viewing, predicting which card or image will show next.

Scientific. Peer reviewed.

Science doesn't know what to do with these findings because the tools we have available are not suited to this sort of investigation. Also, the scienfitic method requires reproductible results, and so many psychic phenomena (e.g. your dad dying) aren't reproductible.

The book Extraordinary Knowing by Elizabeth Lloyd Mayer provides an overview, with insights into how quantum physics may provide an overlap with paranormal phenomena.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 17/03/2024 20:16

There are scientific studies -lots of them - that provide evidence for such phenomena as telepathy, being able to tell when you're being watched, remote viewing, predicting which card or image will show next.
**
Scientific. Peer reviewed.

Are you sure? I’ve never heard of telepathy, for example, having ever been proved.

PlumbersWifey · 17/03/2024 20:19

I belive in ghosts as I've seen 3. I wouldn't go around telling everyone as there's people out there that have seen none and can't get their heads around it. But they are real. I don't suffer with my mental health and do a job where people listen to me and do as I say on important matters.

Iluvteandbiscuits · 17/03/2024 20:21

Prydddan · 17/03/2024 20:12

There are scientific studies -lots of them - that provide evidence for such phenomena as telepathy, being able to tell when you're being watched, remote viewing, predicting which card or image will show next.

Scientific. Peer reviewed.

Science doesn't know what to do with these findings because the tools we have available are not suited to this sort of investigation. Also, the scienfitic method requires reproductible results, and so many psychic phenomena (e.g. your dad dying) aren't reproductible.

The book Extraordinary Knowing by Elizabeth Lloyd Mayer provides an overview, with insights into how quantum physics may provide an overlap with paranormal phenomena.

"Prydddan

There are scientific studies -lots of them - that provide evidence for such phenomena as telepathy, being able to tell when you're being watched, remote viewing, predicting which card or image will show next.

Scientific. Peer reviewed."

Care to share 2 to 3 of them seen as there are loads of them. I would love to read these journals and who has peer reviewed them. I`ll be waiting 🙂

Prydddan · 17/03/2024 20:22

Hedgerow2 · 17/03/2024 19:35

Probably an airlock in your water pipes: we get this intermittently and it does sound like knocking.

Are airlocks really well known for causing mirrors to jump off walls and fly several feet forward where you live? The plumbers there must live interesting lives.