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AIBU - Weeing in lay-bys is anti social and fines should apply

284 replies

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:27

Item in the news- Dacorum Borough Council have stopped issuing fines for wild wees in lay-bys.
I know that this is on a technicality (anti littering law used and wild wees not classed as litter) but I think people weeing in lay-bys is appalling. It should be subject to fines. I can forgive toddlers/ young children but not adults. There are solutions for those with medical conditions that mean urgent wees are a symptom. And it’s always men. Women need urgent wees too (possibly more so, pregnancy etc) and we don’t pull up in lay-bys and squat in front of passing traffic. AIBU?

OP posts:
Bulkypeepants · 17/03/2024 11:09

Soontobe60 · 17/03/2024 09:19

You do know that when you’re driving you should be keeping your eyes on the road don’t you?

Who said I'm driving? I could be a passenger.... I could have a chauffeur.... I could be on a horse for all you know.

Just relax dude, it's Sunday morning!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/03/2024 11:10

I don’t think it’s really a big deal at all.

Ideally there should be lots of public toilets dotted along motorways and the like. But our govt don’t seem to want us to have any public services.

I think if anything we need to reduce the stigma of women having a wild wee - whereas it seems to be considered fine for men!

TheYearOfSmallThings · 17/03/2024 11:11

Callie222 · 17/03/2024 11:09

I have a weak pelvic floor after 4 dc and worry a lot about toilets.... I keep a jug in the car with loo roll, nappy sacks, a big bottle of water, antibac and hand wash. A DIY toilet in the back seat. No drama, works perfectly, discreetly and hygienically.

Absolutely no way. I would much rather wee outside.

soupfiend · 17/03/2024 11:16

Callie222 · 17/03/2024 11:09

I have a weak pelvic floor after 4 dc and worry a lot about toilets.... I keep a jug in the car with loo roll, nappy sacks, a big bottle of water, antibac and hand wash. A DIY toilet in the back seat. No drama, works perfectly, discreetly and hygienically.

Are you saying you do this in the car. Whats the logistics of that? Are you a jeans wearer?

TheGhostOfKatesProlapse · 17/03/2024 11:17

Just wondering how many of the women who apparently frequently down trou by the road because they are caught short (the non-medical reason ones among you - I understand urgency for medical situations) were also on the thread telling anyone who didn't have cash or a card that they weren't "prepared enough" yesterday? Surely you can plan a pit stop on a journey? It is suggested to plan for a break every 2 hours. A healthy adult, having planned ahead and been before leaving, should be able to last for 2 hours and arrange a pit stop. As OP said we aren't discussing whether being caught short in the woods or in a car park is OK, this is lay-by's only - the side of the motorway with people passing, usually used for emergencies and perhaps kids caught short.

Cornettoninja · 17/03/2024 11:22

also on the thread telling anyone who didn't have cash or a card that they weren't "prepared enough" yesterday?

I have no awareness at all of that thread

tacosforbreakfast · 17/03/2024 11:27

TheGhostOfKatesProlapse · 17/03/2024 11:17

Just wondering how many of the women who apparently frequently down trou by the road because they are caught short (the non-medical reason ones among you - I understand urgency for medical situations) were also on the thread telling anyone who didn't have cash or a card that they weren't "prepared enough" yesterday? Surely you can plan a pit stop on a journey? It is suggested to plan for a break every 2 hours. A healthy adult, having planned ahead and been before leaving, should be able to last for 2 hours and arrange a pit stop. As OP said we aren't discussing whether being caught short in the woods or in a car park is OK, this is lay-by's only - the side of the motorway with people passing, usually used for emergencies and perhaps kids caught short.

A layby isn't only on a motorway? In fact, I don't think there are laybys on the motorway? Apart from the police only laybys?

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 17/03/2024 11:29

Callie222 · 17/03/2024 11:09

I have a weak pelvic floor after 4 dc and worry a lot about toilets.... I keep a jug in the car with loo roll, nappy sacks, a big bottle of water, antibac and hand wash. A DIY toilet in the back seat. No drama, works perfectly, discreetly and hygienically.

I'd rather just pee behind a bush!

TicklishPoet · 17/03/2024 11:30

@Cornettoninja Because lay-bys aren’t toilets? If they were supposed to be used as toilets there would be a toilet there

Beargrumps22 · 17/03/2024 11:31

most toilets are shut and those that are not are usually disgusting; had to go in one in town the other day and there was pooh all over the seat and toilet.
my partner has bladder issues due to diabetes and I have irritable bladder so if we have to go we have to go.

Hoplolly · 17/03/2024 11:31

Waffleson · 17/03/2024 08:59

I can't get wound up about someone having a discrete discreet wee. What I do find strange is that noone minds dogs pissing all over the place but when humans do it it's suddenly terrible.

Edited

OMG this!

NoCloudsAllowed · 17/03/2024 11:32

Can't believe no one's made a joke about a sense of Dacorum

Callie222 · 17/03/2024 11:34

@soupfiend yes and yes although I spend a lot of time in trackies which are easier!

@TheYearOfSmallThings me too really but not possible in built up areas or car parks when you're desperate.

Callie222 · 17/03/2024 11:35

My car has darkened rear windows which helps!

napody · 17/03/2024 11:39

rocksavage · 17/03/2024 08:55

I'm far, far more bothered about people leaving litter everywhere than seeing someone urinating. I'd rather they weed al fresco than pissed in a bottle and chucked it out of the window. Really can't get too wound up about seeing people pissing miles from a public loo.

This. Been seeing increasing numbers of bottles o'piss alongside motorways. See also bagging up dog poo and leaving it.

Shania7788 · 17/03/2024 11:40

Laughing a bit at the thought that the side of the road is considered “wild”. I love a nature wee if I’m honest but wouldn’t want to do it in view of other people. Agree that dogs pee all over the pavement/people’s fences etc. and we just accept it but have a problem with humans peeing. As long as genitals are not on full show I couldn’t get upset about people being caught short somewhere that isn’t a public footpath. Would much prefer that to the plastic bottles of orange liquid along the verges!

EmilyPlay · 17/03/2024 11:40

I can't get worked up about this especially when it rains so much and washes it away.

soupfiend · 17/03/2024 11:40

tacosforbreakfast · 17/03/2024 11:27

A layby isn't only on a motorway? In fact, I don't think there are laybys on the motorway? Apart from the police only laybys?

No laybys on motorways, not quite sure what people think they are seeing, perhaps the pull sections for emergencies or where the emergency phones are. Laybys are on A roads or other roads, we have them on country roads round here and an A road which is the only road we can use for 30 miles until we reach the motorway.

tryingtohelp82 · 17/03/2024 11:42

VladsPants · 17/03/2024 08:49

I cant get upset by folk have a wee in a lay-by.

This.. all that matters is that they've pulled over safely. The wee will disappear into the ground and the same spot probably doesn't get peed on twice

soupfiend · 17/03/2024 11:42

Callie222 · 17/03/2024 11:34

@soupfiend yes and yes although I spend a lot of time in trackies which are easier!

@TheYearOfSmallThings me too really but not possible in built up areas or car parks when you're desperate.

I thought you might have been taking the piss, no pun.

If you're serious, what do you mean by portable loo in the back seat, what is this thing?

WillJeSuis · 17/03/2024 11:46

Thriftnugget · 17/03/2024 08:49

@Ofcourseshecan Well I’ve had 3 kids, interstitial cystitis (and an enormous ovarian cyst) so you could say I have had a share of desperate for a wee experiences …. But I’ve never had a wee in a lay-by. Also … she-wees/ and whatever they are called for men (large necked bottle!) for those who need them. …?

If you are able to use a shewee in a moving car while sitting down I'd really like to know how.

IFHTTBIC · 17/03/2024 11:46

Quite right to be so affronted.

What we need is for every layby in rural Scotland/Wales/Ireland/Devon/Northumberland/Norfolk/Cornwall/Shropshire to have a toilet installed. Preferably with Baylis and Harding toiletries. Just think of the number of people you could employ as a bonus.

I'm guessing you don't do much travel in rural locations....

On a serious note we are shockingly badly set up in this country for public anything, including loos.

IncompleteSenten · 17/03/2024 11:48

We'd have more public toilets if people didn't behave like animals.
We all have to suffer because of the people that trash and graffiti public loos with what you pray is only paint but are often dismayed to discover is warmer and thicker than any paint you'll find in b&q.

If the public weren't filthy pigs we'd have public facilities.

Not that the lack of them means it's ok to piss in public of course. I shouldn't even need to clarify that.

soupfiend · 17/03/2024 11:49

WillJeSuis · 17/03/2024 11:46

If you are able to use a shewee in a moving car while sitting down I'd really like to know how.

My OH bought one of these for me for when we're out walking in the countryside.

Utterly useless, wee everywhere all over my shoes and trousers.

I'd love to know how people use these successfully

tryingtohelp82 · 17/03/2024 11:54

IncompleteSenten · 17/03/2024 11:48

We'd have more public toilets if people didn't behave like animals.
We all have to suffer because of the people that trash and graffiti public loos with what you pray is only paint but are often dismayed to discover is warmer and thicker than any paint you'll find in b&q.

If the public weren't filthy pigs we'd have public facilities.

Not that the lack of them means it's ok to piss in public of course. I shouldn't even need to clarify that.

Edited

Very true, this is why they got rid of the ones in my town centre. No toilets anywhere now except pubs
Why are there people who behave like chimps. Such a small minority but ruin it