To think that Labour have just shot themselves in the foot?

[Redrosetat]

https://twitter.com/KemiBadenoch/status/1768647056111861760?s=19&t=wqgtbWPG_X1xZDMhuF871A

‘Just now Labour MPs prevented debate on a new law to protect children and single sex spaces.

Instead they used parliamentary time to discuss ferret name choices.

@Keir_Starmer is terrified of debate on safeguarding & his MPs actively work to ignore the concerns of constituents’

Stop being ridiculous. Saxby got some significant time, everyone respected her Bill - as they should have. It’s extremely important.

KB said ‘Instead they used parliamentary time to discuss ferret name choices’. Which they did. It was fcking embarrassing.

Can I just check, this private member's bill, was introduced by the same Truss who is happy to sit through and support people who call Tommy Robinson a hero?

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24141610.liz-truss-silent-tommy-robinson-called-hero-steve-bannon-podcast/

It is important to continue to ensure there is a housing distribution crisis, which is why both the Prime Minister and Chancellor own more than one home.

Note this is very different from actually having a shortage of housing, which there is not in the UK.

I guess words are cheap when women are picking up the tab for your luxury beliefs.

It would appear so. Currently one million children are living in destitution, rape’s basically been decriminalised because the conviction rate’s so low and women are waiting three weeks for a surgical termination. Obviously caring about those things is a luxury belief.

‘luxury beliefs’

Madness. I’m sure gender ideology lobbyists appreciate the support

Women can’t even get a debate. What a load of rot.

KB said ‘Instead they used parliamentary time to discuss ferret name choices’. Which they did. It was fcking embarrassing.

Surely if she cared so much she’d have bothered to show up?

This just isn't relevant to my point. Unless you believe that the dynamics around this bill force labour to treat the rights of women and children carelessly in other contexts.

Why don't you talk to me about your ferret's name.

If they want a debate on this, put it in the Queen's Speech. They've only been in power for 14 years, this Parliament's legislative agenda has been notoriously light - but I guess shipping people off to Rwanda for £££ a head is more important than safeguarding women at home. Direct your ire at Labour when they're in power. Your precious Kemi Badenoch has the power to do something and does nothing - maybe criticise her just a little bit? All she does is put up divisive tweets.

Will Reform get a further bounce in the polls after the ferret debate?

Here is one recent poll.

https://twitter.com/pollingreportuk/status/1768652854879731771?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

You don’t get it do you? You’ve just turned it to the tories again. Of course you have. Why aren’t Labour doing what I asked? They don’t need ‘to be in power’ for that.

You are mistaken, the latest idea is to pay people to go to Rwanda, so that they can say the policy is woking.

It’s not hard. Let us hear what you think so we can decide from a more informed position

Stop hiding and avoiding. Easy

Nobody’s doing what you asked. No party at all. That’s why Truss introduced a private member’s bill.

Or put her name to the actual bill?

publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-04/0035/230035.pdf

The point here is that every time the polls look worse, one of these threads pops up. It's exhausting. It's as if a certain section of the population has forgotten who is actually in power. What Labour would do is not relevant right now, because we have a Conservative government who could do something but don't - but they get away scot free on these threads. And there's really only one rational explanation as to why that should be the case.

😂🙈 Why aren’t Labour doing it? Instead of massaging the egos of men, and fcking women and children over?

It seems like Labour supporters can see a lot of reasons why they feel like the conservatives have failed the country and ways that Labour could be better.

Is there any reason that stops them thinking about how the party fails women by embracing gender ideology and the cascade of negative consequences for women and children?

Kemi is probably mulling over it. 🙄

If it mattered so much to her she'd have been in the Commons today.

I didn't see it. How much time was spent "discussing ferret name choices" or was it a bit of bantz between colleagues? I'm going to look at Hansard.

It doesn't sound likely that that's the reason Truss' bill didn't get debated.

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

Whilst not specifically on the topic of puberty blockers. His statement in this magazine does not suggest that the Labour position on this is quite what you are assuming it is.

A ban on conversion therapy and a promotion of 'trans healthcare' (reduction in NHS waiting times for this no less!), doesn't sit hand in hand with your assumption.

Perhaps you should ask your sitting Labour MP or prospective one for clarity over Labour Party policy on this? Because in a week where the NHS has implemented a ban, Keir Starmer has been silent on this.

He flip flops more than a fish on this issue.

If the Labour Party would support this then they should jolly well say so.

It is as though the Tories have learnt nothing from partygate.

Keeping coming out with Keir had a Beer, it was only cheese and wine, they were working so hard, but Jeremy Corbyn and so on, just keeps the issue in the public eye.

Same with migration.

At some point even the diehard fans of calling desperate people illegal, will notice they have heard it all before and nothing has changed.

Then they start voting for Reform.

This is odd, this thread is here because the debate was meant to happen today

Maybe you were not aware but there was a PMB and the rest as op says

You may be ‘weary’ with women talking about their rights, you don’t have to join in if the threads are too much, there is a hide option btw but I and others want to have clarity and a debate is a way to get information

You do realise you sound like a toddler having a tantrum? Why aren’t the Libdems, Greens, Reform doing it? Or even the party in power? Why is your footstamping reserved for Labour?

Can you answer the questions about Labour? Rather than turning things to the tories?

I think we all see that no. No Labour can’t answer those questions.

It is ridiculous to criticise Labour for this. Private Member's Bill's very rarely pass and there is no reason why this one would be the exception.

If Badenoch really wants to do something, then why doesn't she in her capacity as minister? It is easy to posture over a PMB instead of putting your money where your moth is.