Page 4 | I'm absolutely livid and need advice - pulled over by police

SableGrape · 2024-03-14T12:41:01+00:00

Just pulled over in the car with my partner (I have another thread about his shit - the idea today was he'd drop me off at work and go back to his own place, pending a more serious conversation about our relationship going forward.) We get onto the duel carriageway and he was driving like a bit of a knob (speeding, cutting between lanes), which attracted the attention of a police car. Pulled him over and the car has no MOT, no tax and no insurance. I am absolutely livid - I had no idea about any of it because on the surface it's really nice car (Astra, about three years old). The car has been seized. I have a licence but don't drive currently (my car is SORN'D because I had an ankle op and haven't been able to drive) I'm worried that it's going to affect my insurance or license or something - I only passed about four years ago (lived in London before so had no need!) Told partner to fuck off and that it's over so that's a good thing maybe but what do I do now? Do being in the car affect me in any way? I'm so angry I feel like I can't think straight!

DishSoap · 14/03/2024 18:26

YANBU for being furious with him, YABU for letting yourself worry that this would affect you! You weren't driving, don't spend any time or energy worrying about it.

IvorTheEngineDriver · 14/03/2024 18:30

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:52

I’m not an expert, but I can’t see that she was entitled to do that. Driving offences are the responsibility of the driver, offences around insurance and MoT are the responsibility of the owner. You are neither. It’s nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t have been asked for anything. Maybe ask at CAB if she was entitled to ask (I’m pretty sure not) then take it further if she wasn’t.

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Why take it further? What possible purpose is served by doing so?

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SableGrape · 14/03/2024 18:36

ConsistentlyElectrifiedElves · 14/03/2024 16:21

Have you been driving it OP, thinking he'd insured you on it?? If so, you've definitely dodged a bullet there! If you had been behind the wheel you would have been the one in trouble.

It's easy to trust your supposed partner when they say they've added you as a named driver, but let this be a lesson to everyone to ask for proof, just in case.

Sounds like you're well shot of him OP. They probably just wanted to check your ID to make sure you're not dodgy (i.e. wanted!), but there's definitely no come back on you.

I haven't been driving anything for the last couple of months, thank God!

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candgen625 · 14/03/2024 18:46

So glad you have binned him off. Sometimes it takes something like this to open your eyes. He's obviously not trustworthy. He can look forward to his day in court on his own, hopefully he will get a huge fine and ban.

Kdtym10 · 14/03/2024 18:52

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:52

I’m not an expert, but I can’t see that she was entitled to do that. Driving offences are the responsibility of the driver, offences around insurance and MoT are the responsibility of the owner. You are neither. It’s nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t have been asked for anything. Maybe ask at CAB if she was entitled to ask (I’m pretty sure not) then take it further if she wasn’t.

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What a load of police hating bollocks. And yes clearly you are no expert, just someone trying to stir hatred against the police.

The police want to know who they are dealing with. It’s perfectly reasonable to as someone to identify themselves.

The OP has said the police woman was lovely. So what have you got against the police? Bet you would call them if you needed them.

NewName24 · 14/03/2024 18:56

I suspect people voting are answering different questions, as it isn't really clear what the AIBU question is.

But, I agree with everyone else, it won't affect you in any way.
Great that you have finally got shot of him.

Can't believe the poster coming out with such anti-police bollox about a perfectly reasonable chat the police officer has had with the passenger of a car that they stopped.

swimlyn · 14/03/2024 19:08

easylikeasundaymorn · 14/03/2024 13:05

Terrible advice.

Police officers are entitled to ask anything they want just like any other random person.

If OP had refused to give her name or show ID then the police would have had to explain why they wanted it and proceed from there (and tbh there could be a lot of reasons, a huge proportion of "wanted" people are picked up by police for other offences or it could be as simple as checking that they hadn't made a mistake and OP had insurance under her name or with the slightly wrong details).

Also if it did go to court or even just if the ex tried to dispute the points/fine, like saying she was driving but made him say it was him, or that she had told him she had sorted insurance and taken the car for an MOT, or any other stupid excuse obviously it is better for the police to be able to say "yes x was also in the car but she was in the passenger seat when we pulled them over, showed us her ID and had a visibly injured ankle so we are satisfied she wasn't driving and she knew nothing about the insurance/mot" rather than "Oh yeah there was a woman there but we didn't ask who she was or anything about her."

If they demanded she provide info without a reason and threatened her with arrest or similar if she refused perhaps then OP could complain - but asking is completely fine. How do you think police carry out any investigations at all if you think they can only speak to the person who is suspected of carrying out a crime and not any potential witnesses?

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Weak knowledge of the law unfortunately.

You should not be worried into cooperating with pushy police. They often overstep their remit.

Kdtym10 · 14/03/2024 19:14

swimlyn · 14/03/2024 19:08

Weak knowledge of the law unfortunately.

You should not be worried into cooperating with pushy police. They often overstep their remit.

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Oh FFS. Another police hating post. It’s reasonable for a police officer to ask for someone to identify themselves. The OP co-operated. There was no dispute. The op said the police woman was lovely. Most police officers are lovely doing an incredibly difficult job inc dealing with utter tossers trying to make their job difficult.

Raccaccoonie · 14/03/2024 19:14

Love to see a thread where the OP has done exactly the right thing, the DP was very clearly doing lots of indefensible things, we are agreed that OP is unlikely to have any hassle from the police or it will affect her car, licence or insurance, and yet there is STILL a fight to be picked on MN!

LondonBagpuss · 14/03/2024 19:29

"No they don’t. This is a myth."

This is not a myth. I would advise checking your insurance policy before driving without a valid MOT as it is a common stipulation in policies.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 14/03/2024 19:33

cardibach · 14/03/2024 13:06

It’s terrible advice to ask whether the policewoman was entitled to take her details?

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It’s terrible advice to say go to CAB. Waste of time, of course the police could ask who she was, she could have declined to give her name. What are CAB going to do?!

Freakinfraser · 14/03/2024 19:34

Christ op, it doesn’t get much classier does it. Cutting in lanes, driving like a knob, speeding, no tax, no insurance, no mot , all in his 15 year old Astra.

not exactly a catch is he. You’re well rid.

Nounderwireplease · 14/03/2024 19:50

Kdtym10 · 14/03/2024 18:52

What a load of police hating bollocks. And yes clearly you are no expert, just someone trying to stir hatred against the police.

The police want to know who they are dealing with. It’s perfectly reasonable to as someone to identify themselves.

The OP has said the police woman was lovely. So what have you got against the police? Bet you would call them if you needed them.

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The poster was not stirring up hatred for the police. Like a lot of people would, she was questioning whether the passenger HAD to give the police officer information about her identity. It is good to be curious about this stuff for obvious reasons.

Given the many negative stories in the news recently, it makes sense to question rather then blindly accept police authority.

Redglitter · 14/03/2024 19:53

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:52

I’m not an expert, but I can’t see that she was entitled to do that. Driving offences are the responsibility of the driver, offences around insurance and MoT are the responsibility of the owner. You are neither. It’s nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t have been asked for anything. Maybe ask at CAB if she was entitled to ask (I’m pretty sure not) then take it further if she wasn’t.

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I think the first 4 words of your post are the most relevant

Clearly you're not because you're totally wrong.

OssieShowman · 14/03/2024 20:11

Car was seized. Wow, that made it difficult. Hope you managed to get home ok.
Glad you made decision to get rid of him.
Hope your ankle heals and you get your independence back.

CrispFanatic · 14/03/2024 20:12

Of course it won’t affect you in any way.

johnd2 · 14/03/2024 20:16

Goodadvice1980 · 14/03/2024 12:48

I know your vehicle is SORN but is it still insured? If so, remove him from the insurance (if he’s on it) in case he tries to take your car!

Lack of insurance hasn't exactly stopped him so far has it😂

1offnamechange · 14/03/2024 20:29

swimlyn · 14/03/2024 19:08

Weak knowledge of the law unfortunately.

You should not be worried into cooperating with pushy police. They often overstep their remit.

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what? there is no law for the poster to quote or have knowledge of, that's the whole point, because the police woman didn't invoke any law or even utilise her policing powers, she was just asking a question. There is no 'law' against anyone, police or public, asking a question.

Of course police officers can overstep their remit but in this case asking the occupants of a potentially stolen car their name couldn't be more within their remit!

I don't understand how people don't get this.

Apart from which OP WASN'T worried about co-operating, and hasn't suggested the officer was in the least bit pushy, so it's a moot point and clearly just an excuse for police bashing.

OneMoreTime23 · 14/03/2024 20:34

Freakinfraser · 14/03/2024 19:34

Christ op, it doesn’t get much classier does it. Cutting in lanes, driving like a knob, speeding, no tax, no insurance, no mot , all in his 15 year old Astra.

not exactly a catch is he. You’re well rid.

24 - 15 =/= 15?

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SableGrape · 14/03/2024 20:52

Freakinfraser · 14/03/2024 19:34

Christ op, it doesn’t get much classier does it. Cutting in lanes, driving like a knob, speeding, no tax, no insurance, no mot , all in his 15 year old Astra.

not exactly a catch is he. You’re well rid.

Not 15 year old, 15 reg so registered in 2015.

And yes, I am!

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SableGrape · 14/03/2024 20:53

OssieShowman · 14/03/2024 20:11

Car was seized. Wow, that made it difficult. Hope you managed to get home ok.
Glad you made decision to get rid of him.
Hope your ankle heals and you get your independence back.

Thank you!

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samarrange · 14/03/2024 20:54

I'm all in favour of civil liberties, but I'm pretty sure that any officer who hears "I don't have to tell you my name" is not going to go "Oh, of course, right you are Madam, no harm done".

In fact in many cases they are probably going to work extra hard to find something to do you for, because you have now established yourself (in their eyes) as a Troublemaker. Probably a Lefty Activist on your way to throw orange paint over the Princess of Wales.

So whenever I meet the police I don't sweat the small stuff. Yes officer, no officer, three bags full officer. My name is Samarrange and here is my driving licence/Tufty club membership card. Let them get bored with you and move on to fry more interesting fish.

Lifebeganat50 · 14/03/2024 21:28

samarrange · 14/03/2024 20:54

I'm all in favour of civil liberties, but I'm pretty sure that any officer who hears "I don't have to tell you my name" is not going to go "Oh, of course, right you are Madam, no harm done".

In fact in many cases they are probably going to work extra hard to find something to do you for, because you have now established yourself (in their eyes) as a Troublemaker. Probably a Lefty Activist on your way to throw orange paint over the Princess of Wales.

So whenever I meet the police I don't sweat the small stuff. Yes officer, no officer, three bags full officer. My name is Samarrange and here is my driving licence/Tufty club membership card. Let them get bored with you and move on to fry more interesting fish.

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Agree with this…for all the “haterz” have you ever heard of failing the attitude test? Because you did.

I wish people like that could be forever barred for calling 999, especially about their petty fallouts on social media

Kdtym10 · 14/03/2024 21:42

Nounderwireplease · 14/03/2024 19:50

The poster was not stirring up hatred for the police. Like a lot of people would, she was questioning whether the passenger HAD to give the police officer information about her identity. It is good to be curious about this stuff for obvious reasons.

Given the many negative stories in the news recently, it makes sense to question rather then blindly accept police authority.

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Actually it’s utter bollocks. It’s just police bashing.

The question over whether she had to give her ID was completely moot. She was at perfect liberty to refuse. Like any sane person who had done nothing wrong she just gave the details politely requested by the police woman.

We don’t have all the details, but someone driving erratically being pulled over by the police might in the first instance have caused the police officer to have enough suspicion to want to search the car, in which case the police will want to know who all the occupants of the car, they might want to know if there are any markers on them/ if they’re a flight risk etc.

Can you state what the issue is you would have telling a police woman who you are? If you would have kicked up a fuss are you happy you are wasting police time? Or are you the sort to encourage people to fuck around with the police then complain they don’t go to every burglary?

im glad the OP (not being Citizen Smith) did what a normal person would do, simply cooperate with a reasonable request then dump the good for nothing boyfriend. Be more like the OP they world needs more of her!

Mrspatmoresspoon · 14/03/2024 22:52

Bladdy hell you’ve had a lucky escape there op.

You need a credit check and a STD check!