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I'm absolutely livid and need advice - pulled over by police

146 replies

SableGrape · 14/03/2024 12:41

Just pulled over in the car with my partner (I have another thread about his shit - the idea today was he'd drop me off at work and go back to his own place, pending a more serious conversation about our relationship going forward.)

We get onto the duel carriageway and he was driving like a bit of a knob (speeding, cutting between lanes), which attracted the attention of a police car. Pulled him over and the car has no MOT, no tax and no insurance.

I am absolutely livid - I had no idea about any of it because on the surface it's really nice car (Astra, about three years old). The car has been seized.

I have a licence but don't drive currently (my car is SORN'D because I had an ankle op and haven't been able to drive) I'm worried that it's going to affect my insurance or license or something - I only passed about four years ago (lived in London before so had no need!)

Told partner to fuck off and that it's over so that's a good thing maybe but what do I do now? Do being in the car affect me in any way? I'm so angry I feel like I can't think straight!

OP posts:
TeeBee · 14/03/2024 15:02

OP, I hope you can see this whole incident as the gift it is. You're free of that knob with little effort or discussion on your part. I'd try to see it as ripping the plaster off. You're done.

Lamelie · 14/03/2024 15:02

Side eye to the derailers Hmm
@SableGrape yanbu to be absolutely livid. But you are at most a witness to a crime, not the perpetrator and you are in no trouble.
Flowers

crumbledog · 14/03/2024 15:07

You don't need an mot on a car until its 3rd year.
why would you partner not insure, tax etc a fairly newish car ?
Its not your fault anyway, because you weren't driving. Maybe you'll be called as a witness ?

HollyKnight · 14/03/2024 15:13

Like others have said, no it won't affect you.

But it actually is important for people to know that they don't have to provide personal details unless suspected of committing a crime, in which case they will tell them this. It is clear that a lot of people do not realise this.

2023NEWMUM2023 · 14/03/2024 15:20

As a passenger you won't be affected. DVLA won't be informed. Take it as a lucky escape!

SableGrape · 14/03/2024 15:24

crumbledog · 14/03/2024 15:07

You don't need an mot on a car until its 3rd year.
why would you partner not insure, tax etc a fairly newish car ?
Its not your fault anyway, because you weren't driving. Maybe you'll be called as a witness ?

Sorry - he's has it three years, it's a 15 reg.

OP posts:
magicmole · 14/03/2024 15:24

Know it's taken the thread off topic a bit but thought I'd share this for anyone who's confused by what the Police can and can't do when they stop you https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/advice_information/stop-and-account/

A police officer can legally stop any vehicle at any time and ask to see driving documents, check the condition of the vehicle or deal with driving offences. And it's also perfectly legitimate (and reasonable) for them to ask the occupants of the vehicle who they are. But you don't have to give this information if you don't want to, unless the police officer says they're reporting you for an offence.

OP, I'm glad you're OK. As others have said, his driving offences won't affect your licence or future insurance.

Stop and Account - Liberty

https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/advice_information/stop-and-account

cardibach · 14/03/2024 15:32

SableGrape · 14/03/2024 14:59

@cardibach

Can you stop please? You've taken this thread way off course and it's been a shit enough day without you stirring arguments!

I wasn't at all bothered by being asked to show my ID. in fact I was happy to because it proved that I wasn't connected to the car in any way.

I’m sorry if I upset you. I was trying to offer some advice because you did seem genuinely concerned as to whether you would be affected by your details having been taken. I don’t think it’s my original comment that derailed though, more all the people who leapt to tell me I was stupid and laugh at me for doing so - I don’t think you would expect me to just take that, do you?
I’m having a bit of a shit week too, medically speaking, and being called stupid and unhelpful and being laughed at hasn’t helped me either.
Teach me to try to be nice.

R0ckStarrr · 14/03/2024 15:46

You also do not need an MOT, if you car, van, motorcycle is over 40 years old

However, you are expected to maintain your vehicle

Gettingonmygoat · 14/03/2024 15:51

I know you are shocked at the moment but be glad it happened, it was the shove you needed to get rid of a waste of space.

SableGrape · 14/03/2024 15:53

cardibach · 14/03/2024 15:32

I’m sorry if I upset you. I was trying to offer some advice because you did seem genuinely concerned as to whether you would be affected by your details having been taken. I don’t think it’s my original comment that derailed though, more all the people who leapt to tell me I was stupid and laugh at me for doing so - I don’t think you would expect me to just take that, do you?
I’m having a bit of a shit week too, medically speaking, and being called stupid and unhelpful and being laughed at hasn’t helped me either.
Teach me to try to be nice.

Edited

I'm sorry you're having a shit day too! Hope it gets better for you soon! 💐💐💐

OP posts:
citrinetrilogy · 14/03/2024 15:54

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:52

I’m not an expert, but I can’t see that she was entitled to do that. Driving offences are the responsibility of the driver, offences around insurance and MoT are the responsibility of the owner. You are neither. It’s nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t have been asked for anything. Maybe ask at CAB if she was entitled to ask (I’m pretty sure not) then take it further if she wasn’t.

The police officer would simply have spoken to the passenger and had a chat to check and corroborate (or otherwise) the story told by the driver of the vehicle. That's all that happened here. Dodgy drivers are apt to come out with a complete pack of lies, and the OP was asked some questions to see whether there was any discrepancy between her answers and his.

Miyagi99 · 14/03/2024 16:13

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:52

I’m not an expert, but I can’t see that she was entitled to do that. Driving offences are the responsibility of the driver, offences around insurance and MoT are the responsibility of the owner. You are neither. It’s nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t have been asked for anything. Maybe ask at CAB if she was entitled to ask (I’m pretty sure not) then take it further if she wasn’t.

If he was driving erratically she probably wanted to check that the passenger was consenting and that she wasn’t in danger, surely.

ConsistentlyElectrifiedElves · 14/03/2024 16:21

Have you been driving it OP, thinking he'd insured you on it?? If so, you've definitely dodged a bullet there! If you had been behind the wheel you would have been the one in trouble.

It's easy to trust your supposed partner when they say they've added you as a named driver, but let this be a lesson to everyone to ask for proof, just in case.

Sounds like you're well shot of him OP. They probably just wanted to check your ID to make sure you're not dodgy (i.e. wanted!), but there's definitely no come back on you.

potato57 · 14/03/2024 16:23

Not sure what advice you need, you seem to have it covered??

TorroFerney · 14/03/2024 16:27

cardibach · 14/03/2024 13:53

Ah, I see. Failure to read or comprehend.
I said

  • I wasn’t an expert
  • she should consult someone who was
  • she should complain if an expert said it was an unreasonable request
Edited

Good for you for admitting your failure to comprehend the law and for just making stuff up.

Nannyfannybanny · 14/03/2024 16:41

If you check a motor vehicle insurance,it says vehicle must be covered by valid MOT otherwise insurance is invalid.

Ellie56 · 14/03/2024 16:50

@SableGrape He sounds like a massive twat, so well done for binning him off.

viques · 14/03/2024 16:53

Add to that is the knowledge that drivers picked up for driving offences are often found to be known/ wanted for other things, like not complying with probation restrictions, failing to appear in court, having outstanding fines, be carrying drugs, or offensive weapons, so from the polices point of view checking out their passengers is often well worth while. I know it sounds crazy, after all , if most of us knew we had those sort of issues hanging over us we would be driving as carefully as we could in a fully taxed and insured car, but clearly this is not the case for petty criminals.

Nounderwireplease · 14/03/2024 16:55

OrchardBlack · 14/03/2024 13:05

For gods sake, Police can ask for information on anyone, they don't have to provide it.
I've run someone through before who was passenger in a car with no MOT and he was wanted for murder in Scotland. Guess he should go to CAB as well. 😂

Right, but surely you understand that most people will think they have to provide info if asked by a police officer, unless said police officer says ‘you don’t have to provide this information’.

Your post lacks perspective on how the public engage with police, which is worrying as I presume you work for the police.

cardibach · 14/03/2024 17:31

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Celticliving · 14/03/2024 17:39

Well done for getting rid of him.

Uninsured drivers are the worst.

OneMoreTime23 · 14/03/2024 17:41

Nannyfannybanny · 14/03/2024 16:41

If you check a motor vehicle insurance,it says vehicle must be covered by valid MOT otherwise insurance is invalid.

No they don’t. This is a myth.

Ghostgirl77 · 14/03/2024 18:19

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:52

I’m not an expert, but I can’t see that she was entitled to do that. Driving offences are the responsibility of the driver, offences around insurance and MoT are the responsibility of the owner. You are neither. It’s nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t have been asked for anything. Maybe ask at CAB if she was entitled to ask (I’m pretty sure not) then take it further if she wasn’t.

This is absolute rubbish, of course the police are allowed to ask questions! If nothing else, OP is a witness to a crime and therefore the police would be negligent NOT to ask…

pinkstripeycat · 14/03/2024 18:23

cardibach · 14/03/2024 12:52

I’m not an expert, but I can’t see that she was entitled to do that. Driving offences are the responsibility of the driver, offences around insurance and MoT are the responsibility of the owner. You are neither. It’s nothing to do with you and you shouldn’t have been asked for anything. Maybe ask at CAB if she was entitled to ask (I’m pretty sure not) then take it further if she wasn’t.

Police can ask you for your details any time they like. If they think you are involved in an offence you have to give your details. If, in OPs case, nothing to do with them, OP doesn’t have to give her name.

I know this 100% as I’ve just asked a police officer

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