I am not voting for Labour or Con…

[EddyF]

What party can I vote for that may have a chance? I do not want to waste a vote but may have to. As a young(ish) Black woman, none of the above present me. I was born here as were my parents. Originally from East Africa. Spent a lot of holidays there as a child but not so much as an adult, otherwise I would seriously think of going back to live there.

I have always voted Labour but they are disappointing. For the first time, I am thinking of not voting but it does not sit right within me.

I might try the Green Party I guess.

I really don't want Labour back in. It's one or the other.

Even Owen Jones telling everyone not to vote Labour now. Starmer is a fraud and lied through his teeth to the membership to get the leadership.

I've found 'but Corbyn' and I claim my £5

Yeah, whatever. Vote for any set of cranks you like.

Owen Jones is telling everyone not to vote Labour????

Yup. Excellent reason for doing so in my book.

yep, which is exactly why I'm
not voting Labour!

Wow. I am surprised. Or, maybe I’m not. He has a history of changing his mind. He did used to support Brexit, in a Lexit way (which Tony Benn and Corbyn also did). He changed his mind about that.
Hes talked about Privatisation and Palestine but not biological women’s rights. He still agrees they should be taken away then.
Hmm

This article is last year, wow I’m out of date ref Owen.

Owen Jones is Bernie Sanders..

No, at least Bernie isn’t an antisemite

Good grief, Jones feeling sorry for himself and moaning about Labour is hardly news. He's not Bernie Sanders, he's just a twat.

I don’t follow this person, I have heard of him on here but that’s about it.

Does he say who he wants the people who follow him to vote for?

If you’re not on Twitter you don’t really see this stuff

That’s libel

Yeah, sure.

Depends who you ask. The Washington Examiner called Sander's campaign "the most antisemitic in decades"

It's almost like term is bandied about, without any compelling evidence, simply to discredit someone you disagree with.

The strength of your argument & the evidence you've pointed to as a means to illustrate your position on this thread have convinced me of my errors.

Who could possibly hold a contrary opinion in the face of such solid reasoning?

Apologism for antisemitism? That’s a disgusting thing to accuse someone of. You ought to be a lot more careful- playing fast and loose with the word antisemitism as if you can apply it to anyone you want to discredit because you disagree with them politically is a dangerous and vile thing to do

True.

News to me. Although I don’t read the guardian (other than Apple News or specifically recommended articles) and I’m not on Twitter so I can see why I hadn’t heard about it. Can’t bear the little gremlin.

I meant Bernie Sanders in a he’s splitting the vote way. Sanders was probably responsible for Trump, he split the Democrat vote. Though Jones isn’t a candidate obviously, he may sway voters away from Labour.

Not sure. I think he said anyone but Labour or the tories.

You didn't answer the question, though. What do you think the Tories can achieve with a fifth term that they didn't have time to do in the first four?

Jovacknockowitch
somehow it's STILL Labour's fault in some weird way

Yes - here;
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rachel-reeves-criticises-new-labour-economic-record/

Owen Jones is a Guardian columnist:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/01/george-galloway-rochdale-keir-starmer-left-labour-muslim
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/14/labour-azhar-ali-rochdale-byelection

Don’t be boringly predictable. People have genuine concerns about immigration, but you’re using the classic argument of accusing people of racism. It’s not racism to not want uncontrolled immigration. It’s the same old, same old argument to close down opinion.