That puberty blockers should not be promoted for children by any charities or celebrities for children.

[WandaWomblesaurus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68549091.amp

https://archive.ph/hmIvY

Loads of news today about the NHS stopping puberty blockers being given to children who think they are trans. Puberty blockers are sometimes prescribed for children who have precocious puberty, however a narrative that has been pushed by Mermaids, Stonewall and celebrities like India Willoughby and Emma Watson (who gave a large donation to Mermaids) - that puberty blockers are safe and "lifesaving"

WPATH guidelines in the USA which the UK NHS have followed in procedure have had leaked documents and videos showing that they knew that children didn't have the ability to understand the long term effects.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/09/disturbing-leaks-from-us-gender-group-wpath-ring-alarm-bells-in-nhs

https://archive.ph/h0BtF

And a new Finnish Study debunks the idea that children who say they are trans are more suicidal https://archive.ph/h0BtF

However Mermaids, Stonewall and India Willoughby are pushing puberty blockers as safe.

https://x.com/stonewalluk/status/1767603259932361036?s=

https://www.tiktok.com/@mermaidsgenderr*/photo/7345520902936726816?isfrommwebapp=1&senderdevice=mobile&senderrweb_id=7345629783211378209

https://x.com/indiawilloughby/status/1767595379921404151?s=46

AIBU to think that anyone pushing puberty blockers at this point is unethical? And that they should never have been allowed to be given to children who did not need them for precocious puberty where the risks are weighed up against the side effects and they are only used short term?

You are definitely not being unreasonable!

Emma Watson (who gave a large donation to Mermaids)

I knew she'd spoken out against JKR but seriously....... How utterly utterly stupid is she?

And yes, absolutely unethical.

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/gutted-by-jk-rowling-saved-by-emma-watson/

At some point we'll look back and wonder why we willingly caused irreversible damage to so many young bodies by prescribing drugs which were untested for the purpose they were being prescribed for and have serious side effects which are now coming to light.

It’s awful to think of all the children who have already been harmed by their use.

They still can be prescribed by individual practitioners. It must be remembered, too, that there is more than one use for these medicines. For example, should a child start developing breasts at the age of 2, this is the type of medicine that curbs that process.

environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files

The evidence here is very very worrying - they knew that children couldn't consent particularly disturbing is a doctor saying this:

“I think the thing you have to remember about kids is that we’re often explaining these sorts of things to people who haven’t even had biology in high school yet"

Discussing options to preserve fertility, with a 14-year-old is “always a good theory,” he says in the video, because many will go on to cross-sex hormones that will leave them sterile. But, “I know I’m talking to a blank wall,” he says. “And the same would happen for a cisgender kid, right? They’d be like, ‘Ew, kids, babies, gross.’”
“We try to talk about it, but most of the kids are nowhere in any kind of a brain space to really, really, really talk about it in a serious way,” he adds. “I — that’s always bothered me, but you know, we still want the kids to be happy, happier in the moment, right?”

I already mentioned precocious puberty. This is nothing to do with that, where the risks of the blockers are carefully weighed up against the risks of an early puberty and there is medical evidence that they can help.

This is not the same.

In 50 years time people will look back on us, the public, with absolute horror. We’ll look like the bystanders who allowed any historical atrocity to take place. Like letting women be condemned as witches because not enough of us had the courage to say That isn’t true.

Yes transgender youth exist. You should focus on supporting them, not denying their existence. You’re being very unreasonable. Get further educated with all perspectives before you come to an unreasonable conclusion

We have been 'educating' ourselves for years thanks.

Yes, there are children who for many reasons dissociate from their sexed body. Could be trauma, sexual abuse, autism, confusion about being same sex attracted, coerced by adults pushing gender ideology.
No one is 'denying their existence' so you can stop with the emotional blackmail here.

Puberty is not a disease that needs treating and the majority of teens with dysphoria, which is a mental health issue, grow out of it when their body and brain matures.

Discussing options to preserve fertility, with a 14-year-old is “always a good theory,” he says in the video, because many will go on to cross-sex hormones that will leave them sterile

In order to collect eggs from a 14 year old girl to freeze, would she have to be put through the same process as a woman going through IVF?

"So many?" How many children do you think have been prescribed puberty blockers?

But do you think advocating for experimental treatments that sterilises them is supporting them?

Can you provide evidence that it helps them?

@VivienneDelacroix At least 100 children – some as young as 12 – <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/1HkYB/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/13/tavistock-clinic-puberty-blockers-trans-teens-hannah-barnes/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">have been put on the drugs to prevent pubertyy since July 2022, when health officials said the practice would be stopped outside of clinical trials after a damning review of children’s gender services.

archive.ph/1HkYB

How many before 2022, and how many are getting them from the offshore Gender GP that Mermaids and India Willoughby are promoting?

How many experiments are you ok with?

@WandaWomblesaurus

I already mentioned precocious puberty. This is nothing to do with that, where the risks of the blockers are carefully weighed up against the risks of an early puberty and there is medical evidence that they can help.

This is not the same.

I didn't suggest it was the same. I was pointing out that there was not a blanket ban on the medicine as it does have uses.

This from the Telegraph in 2022:

High-profile support for charityCelebrities who have publicly backed Mermaids in the past include the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Harry Potter star Emma Watson and Jameela Jamil.
In 2020, Watson posted on Twitter announcing she had donated to Mermaids and encouraged others to do the same.

Drop the URL into an archive website like archive dot ph if you can't read it all. The following paras about JKR are interesting. She's very resolute.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/06/celebrity-supporters-controversial-trans-charity-mermaids-gave/

@MaryBirthgiver1975@MaryBirthgiver1975 there is evidence that suggests that puberty blockers stunt growth, lower IQ and reduce bone density in children.

What reduction in IQ or bone density in children do you consider to be an acceptable risk in order to relieve gender distress via puberty blockers?

There is also evidence than in many or perhaps even most children, profound gender distress resolves on its own post puberty.

Do you think giving distressed children experimental therapies, with known life long side effects such as drop in IQ and bone density is being supportive?

Hhmm the page you quote has been removed. It's 83 children in the last year - from NHS data, not a very bias newspaper. Puberty blockers are not being dished out like sweeties. It's astonishingly rare for them to be prescribed (as it should be).
All this will do is push people to private clinics, and (as has been the case for neurodevelopmental pathways) then we'll have a dangerous situation where if you pay enough you'll get the prescription, without the much more transparent systems of the NHS.

Does it matter if it is 83 or 200+?
1 is too many if for the wrong reasons...

There can be a medical reason for these drugs, but this is not it - to give any drug off-label is irresponsible and unethical

We will look back in future years at one of the largest safeguarding scandals to hit our young people - and it will have been driven by the NHS.

How many sterilised young people would be an acceptable number for you?

The page is not down - it's the Telegraph archive.ph/1HkYB you can complaint to them directly if you think their stats are wrong.

I also said we don't know how many children have gotten them from Gender GP who do give them out like sweeties.

How many children do you think is acceptable to experiment on? 88 better than 100?

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🦄 It's hardly any children being given them

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🦄 Trans kids EXIST!

🦄 J K Rowling is KILLING kids

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You are not being unreasonable. This is the biggest medical scandal since thalidomide.