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Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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VestibuleVirgin · 12/03/2024 07:15

Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

Tory donor Frank Hester apologises over 'reprehensible' comments about Diane Abbott

Frank Hester has admitted making ‘rude’ comments about the politician but said they had ‘nothing to do with her gender nor colour of skin’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

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Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 09:31

Note that he also wanted to shoot a female executive he once met - he is very specific that this was a woman. I find myself wondering if she was also not white.

Bassetlover · 12/03/2024 09:34

He's a vile racist and System 1 is shit, I use if for work, unfortunately.

squirrelnutkin10 · 12/03/2024 09:36

Many of the Tory party went to Oxbridge but many of them seem to lack intelligence too ! Academic ability does not always translate well in the workplace, or Government.
However this is obviously not the point here..there is an unacceptable amount of aggression towards women in the public eye and this is blatant appalling racism.

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 09:37

This Guardian article offers more detail. Actually, it implies the exec was white - but also reveals that he based his derision of her on the fact she was female and that this makes him 'want to be sexist'. He then goes on to make this the equivalent of Diane Abbott making him want to be racist.

Thsi whole 'private meeting ' thing is bilge. It was a meeting. Ina workplace. That's not 'private'. A racist 'in private' is still a racist.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/11/biggest-tory-donor-looking-diane-abbott-hate-all-black-women

Biggest Tory donor said looking at Diane Abbott makes you ‘want to hate all black women’

Exclusive: Remarks by Frank Hester, who has given £10m to the party in the past year, raise questions over his workplace behaviour

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/11/biggest-tory-donor-looking-diane-abbott-hate-all-black-women

Westfacing · 12/03/2024 09:39

squirrelnutkin10 · 12/03/2024 09:12

Personally l think Dianne Abbot lacks any intelligence, and should never be an MP on that basis, but the behaviour of the MP who said this is appalling, he should be sacked with immediate effect.

And you're so intelligent you can't even read the article properly.

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 09:39

This is the gem:

“[The executive] and Diane Abbott need to be shot. She’s stupid … If we can get [the executive] being unprofessional we can get her sacked. It’s not as good as her dying. It would be much better if she died. She’s consuming resource. She’s eating food that other people could eat. You know?”

'Useless eaters' , anyone?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/03/2024 09:39

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 09:06

Whataboutery at its finest.

ETA: I can't stand Streeting and what John McDonnell said was vile.

Edited

Where's the whataboutery? I fully condemn what was said about Diane Abbott and I want a political system that doesn't involve violent, threatening men no matter what party they belong to and especially if they are MPs.

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 09:42

squirrelnutkin10 · 12/03/2024 09:36

Many of the Tory party went to Oxbridge but many of them seem to lack intelligence too ! Academic ability does not always translate well in the workplace, or Government.
However this is obviously not the point here..there is an unacceptable amount of aggression towards women in the public eye and this is blatant appalling racism.

Well you were the one who questioned the intelligence of Britain's first black female MP, not me. Why did you feel it was relevant?

Diane Abbott has suffered more abuse than any other MP. But people seem to find ways to excuse it or minimise it, even now.

ACynicalDad · 12/03/2024 09:42

It's vile, I don't like her politics and I'm really pleased there is no risk of her becoming the next Home Secretary, but it's still vile.

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 09:45

But, but but...

CurlewKate · 12/03/2024 09:46

I wish people would just say that the comments were racist and unacceptable without feeling the need to say why they don't like Abbott first....

GoodnightAdeline · 12/03/2024 09:46

Generally I find Labour to be far more misogynistic than the Tories and I’m happy to defend that point. However, this comment was probably the most vile I’ve ever read, from either. Just hideous and how Diane gets up in the morning and carries on is beyond me because she has been hounded to this effect her entire life.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/03/2024 09:48

Hester is a racist misogynist. WTF is he going on about saying it had nothing to do with DA's colour or sex. If you take the racism and misogyny out of his sentence, there's nothing left.

The Tories are a fucking disgrace!Angry

minou123 · 12/03/2024 09:49

DuncinToffee · 12/03/2024 09:13

Energy Minister Graham Stuart is on media duty today, taking the party line as per Mel Stride

It’s clear that what he said was inappropriate. He has, as I understand it, apologised for those remarks. I think the critical point here is I don’t think what he was saying was a gender-based or a race-based comment, but it was clearly inappropriate. He has apologised and I think we need to move on from that.”

R4
https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1767475061085319380?s=20

Sky News
https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1767454266803867789?s=20

Everything as "inappropriate" with these bloody Tories.

Make a racist comment - no no, not racist, just "inappropriate"
Make sexist comments - no no, not sexist, just "inappropriate"
Sexually harrass or rape -no no, not a sex offender, just "inappropriate"
Commit fraud - no no, not illegal, just "inappropriate"
Tell lies - no no, not against parliament standards, just "inappropriate"

What the fuck

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 09:50

I think Sunak will squirm and squirm and squirm, then capitulate.

borntobequiet · 12/03/2024 09:50

He’s an out and out racist and misogynist and an explicit advocate of violence against women.

This should not be tolerated in any circumstance.

Notpossibly · 12/03/2024 09:51

GoodnightAdeline · 12/03/2024 07:53

Absolutely. Frankly the misery men, particularly white men, inflict on the world, I know which way round this should be IF ANY (no, I don’t want anyone to be shot)

You don't want to shoot white men, but do you want to hate them?

IWFH · 12/03/2024 09:53

The Tory Party is institutionally Racist.
The Right Wing Press don't give a shit.
The Tory leadership don't give a shit.

Nothing new to see here.

GoodnightAdeline · 12/03/2024 09:54

Notpossibly · 12/03/2024 09:51

You don't want to shoot white men, but do you want to hate them?

To be honest I don’t have a very high opinion of men in general. Currently sat on a train and a group of men in front of me are drinking, vaping and shouting. Once in a blue moon it’s women, but very very usually men. I don’t ‘hate’ them but women en masse are more considerate, gentle and conditioned to think of others. I find a lot of men to be entitled, domineering and aggressive.

OneTC · 12/03/2024 09:55

Westfacing · 12/03/2024 08:09

He really is a nasty piece of work who seems to like the idea of women being shot and dying. In relation to another woman and Diane Abbot he went on to say

“[The executive] and Diane Abbott need to be shot. She’s stupid … If we can get [the executive] being unprofessional we can get her sacked. It’s not as good as her dying. It would be much better if she died. She’s consuming resource. She’s eating food that other people could eat. You know?”

Man literally just called her a free eater

/boak

Just casually evoking Nazi ideology like you do. What a fucking specimen this fella is.

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 09:56

Perhaps we should send this thread to Tory Party HQ.

For once ,we seem to have a consensus that this man is definitely racist , and definitely a misogynist.

GoodnightAdeline · 12/03/2024 09:57

GoodnightAdeline · 12/03/2024 09:54

To be honest I don’t have a very high opinion of men in general. Currently sat on a train and a group of men in front of me are drinking, vaping and shouting. Once in a blue moon it’s women, but very very usually men. I don’t ‘hate’ them but women en masse are more considerate, gentle and conditioned to think of others. I find a lot of men to be entitled, domineering and aggressive.

They’re now going through the social media accounts of women they know. Making unkind comments about the way they look and laughing.

ChateauMargaux · 12/03/2024 09:58

Why has this person not been prosecuted? Does it need Diane Abbott to make a police complaint? Or can any black women bring a complaint?

The stark difference between what women are arrested for and what men get away with never ceases to baffle me.

How is this not a hate crime?

C8H10N4O2 · 12/03/2024 10:00

bombastix · 12/03/2024 08:54

Excuse me but apparently Kemi is busy wondering how to play this one and won't be available. See also Post Office, trade deals, and gender critical feminist policy. Tray is full

Right because as a black woman in the Tories she must speak on every occasion where a black woman has been attacked?

Do you really not see how this is the same mind set in naicer words?

Some of the worst racism and sexism I've experienced was from the brocialists inside the Labour party (who also take money from unions which campaigning against equal pay for women and who historically campaigned to keep colour bars).

There was very little comment in the "right wing MSM" when the the same pundits attacked black and brown women in the cabinet with dog whistle terms around being race traitors because obviously any right thinking black or brown woman must be left wing. God forbid black women have a range of opinions just like white MC liberals.

There is no shortage of racism in any part of society and the smug assumption that virtuous MC liberals are pure and righteous is a big part of the problems that Labour have experienced. Abbott herself has talked about it often in the past - particularly when younger and in better health she was passionate on this issue within the party.

UpsideLeft · 12/03/2024 10:03

It's such a stupid and vile comment to have made

I've met Diane Abbot and yes she is an unpleasant character that much is true

But urgh to say what he said makes my stomach turn

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