Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

I wonder what extremism looks like?

If someone tweeted that an MP should be shot, I wonder what the police would do?

But it’s true, isn’t it?

I'm getting a sense of your user name

Cake - hero or terrorist?

Wine - hero or terrorist?

😂

cakeorwine
Some people think they are heroes

Presumably those people don't condemn what Hamas did on 7 October either.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbot-frank-hester-racism-labour-b2512532.html

When Britain shot dead 1500 peaceful people in Amritsar, I have no doubt some people thought that was terrorism.

And some people thought they were heroes.

Who's right?

Yes, as we discussed earlier, DIane Abbot has also critised her own party

British soldiers in Northern Ireland were seen by terrorists by some.
Heroes by others.
Who's right?

@Clavinova

There are plenty of examples in history of freedom fighter / terrorist.

And would you believe that some people think Britain were the bad guys?

I guess they just needed to be given some large donations not to think that.

Clavinova knows, don't entertain her faux-naif

One man's terrorist is another man's hero though, Nelson Mandela being a great example. And yes, history is written by the victors.

cakeorwine
When Britain shot dead 1500 peaceful people in Amritsar, I have no doubt some people thought that was terrorism.
And some people thought they were heroes.

That was over 100 years ago - has anyone in recent history described them as heroes?

Having travelled in India, they take a somewhat different view of things that the Brits did to them compared to how it's seen here

What a strange comment.
That just shows your lack of critical thinking.

So you do admit that some people can describe a group as terrorists and others have a different view?

I am sure that there was resistance to Roman occupation of Judea and the Romans saw the people who resisted as terrorists and others saw them as freedom fighters.

Utterly horrible. Racist. misogynist, AND borderline incitement. Especially when one considers that two MPs were assassinated in the last few years, and another was only saved from such a fate because one of the people involved in the assassination plot defected and turned informer. Surely this comes under Sunak's own definition of 'extremism'.

Well this is interesting

"He said on Wednesday: “It takes the form of a doctored video clip which gives a false impression of an interview I did last year.”
Mr Vince has since shared part of the Times Radio interview in which he replied “yes” when asked if he agreed with Labour’s position that Hamas are terrorists and Israel has a right to defend itself
He told the PA news agency: “The Tory reaction to the racist, sexist and violent language used by their biggest donor aimed at Diane Abbott is not to put their own house in order but to throw mud at anyone who gives money to Labour"

So it looks like someone has been trying to

negate or destroy the fundamental rights and freedoms of other; or

1. undermine, overturn or replace the UK's system of liberal parliamentary democracy and democratic rights; or
2. intentionally create a permissive environment for others to achieve the results in (1) or (2)."

By spreading falsehoods about them which could destroy their freedom and fundamental rights*

*See also the Conservative party

cakeorwine
Well this is interesting
"He said on Wednesday: “It takes the form of a doctored video clip which gives a false impression of an interview I did last year.”
Mr Vince has since shared part of the Times Radio interview in which he replied “yes” when asked if he agreed with Labour’s position that Hamas are terrorists and Israel has a right to defend itself

Elsewhere it's been reported he said this;

When challenged on the fact that saying Hamas are freedom fighters isn’t the official Labour position, Vince said: "This is my view, this is how I feel".

No I’m not.

You asked if you needed to spell it out. I said yes, because I have no idea what you are on about.

But you wouldn’t. So…

And yet he agrees with Labour's position that Hamas are terrorists and that Israel has the right to defend itself.

cakeorwine

I will have to find the clip myself but now I'm wanted elsewhere.

Here you go.

https://www.facebook.com/thetimesradio/videos/707712724135094/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

😂

Seems Hester has given a further £5 million - that's a total of £15 million!

That's surely a record for the UK?