Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

lol. Biting quip.

As you were, Clav.

🤣 Hilarious @Clavinova

I think that Diane Abbott needs to be seen as completely above reproach for the party to restore the whip, especially in the run up to an election.
Antisemitism is a potential achilles heel for Labour and a lot of voters already think the worst of Abbott, in no small part due to the smear campaign against her. So it's probably taking them ages to sift through all the misinformation and be confident of the facts.
I think they were probably hoping to wait until after the election to decide. Or that she would retire gracefully so it all went away

I'm surprised that Dianne Abbot is seeking the return of the whip - if I were her I'd delight in telling Starmer where to go.

The Labour Party have been harsh with such a long ban.

I think if she stood as an independent she'd win.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68567487

Maybe this has given them an opportunity.

It would be hard for the Tories to criticise "forgiveness with remorse" at this point

Christian forgiveness?

Really. I think Jesus would be demonised as woke.
His actions in the temple would see him classified as an extremist.
The Good Samaritan would be a story they wouldn't understand? Really - you helped a complete stranger who had been attacked and you provided money to ensure he was ok?

"He ain't no Christian"

What is controversial about that? hero/terrorist depends on which side you are on, surely?

Quite. I thought that. History belongs to the Victor etc

I seem to remember that Thatcher thought Mandela was a terrorist.

I am sure some people would describe Hamas as freedom fighters. Others would describe them as terrorists.

I would describe them as terrorists.

I do know that saying that an MP should be shot and that seeing Diane Abbot makes someone want to hate all black women is clearly racist.

I don't suppose @Clavinova is going to explain what they think is wrong about saying some people believe Hamas are terrorists and others think they are freedom fighters.

She couldn’t even explain what was wrong with a poster pointing out Sunak’s doesn’t seem to have an issue with Hester being racist about Asians.

Hamas are 'heroes'? Seriously?

Some people would argue that.
Others would say they are terrorists.

Do you think that some people would describe Hamas as heroes?

I would say they are terrorists.

Surely you must be aware that other people have different views to you

Nobody said that, did they?

@Clavinova

The IRA. Terrorists or freedom fighters?

Do you think some people would call them terrorists?
Do you think some people would call them freedom fighters?

The Maquis - terrorists or freedom fighters?

Redundantrobin
She couldn’t even explain what was wrong with a poster pointing out Sunak doesn’t seem to have an issue with Hester being racist about Asians.

Now you are twisting my words. I am confident that some posters knew what I was getting at.

I am confident you don't understand that what some people call freedom fighters, others might call terrorists

BIossomtoes
Nobody said that, did they?

They clearly implied it;

"What is controversial about that? hero/terrorist depends on which side you are on, surely?"

Some people think they are heroes.
Some people think they are terrorists.

I am sure that there are people, especially in Gaza, who would see them as heroes.

And there are plenty, including myself, who see them as terrorists.

I don't though expect you to understand the freedom fighter / terrorist debate.

It requires critical thinking and not just posting links.

🤣

So I see another large donation has gone to the Conservatives.

It's the gift that keeps giving.

18 November 2023

Keir Starmer said Jeremy Corbyn's “days as a Labour MP are over” as he condemned the former leader’s repeated refusal to call Hamas a terrorist organisation in an interview ...

Labour leader ‘shocked’ by left-winger’s interview – as Corbyn belatedly calls Hamas terrorists

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-starmer-labour-gaza-ceasefire-b2449617.html

If Keir Starmer was 'shocked' by Jeremy Corbyn why is he accepting donations from Dale Vince?

Was Dale Vince asked to call them terrorists?

What do you think is wrong with the words Dale Vince used?

It is just another derail

Here is Sunak having trouble to call out extremism

https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1768309263967896014?s=20

Three times in a row, Rishi Sunak refuses to say that saying MP Diane Abbott should be shot is extremism

Apparently donating £15 million to the Conservative party makes you exempt from the Conservative government's extremist legislation