Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

newnamethanks
Calling Diane Abbott would have given the Tory ghouls opportunity to loudly traduce her even more.

More likely there would have been calls for Starmer to restore the whip to Diane Abbott - Hoyle has saved Starmer embarrassment again.

Did you see this article in the Guardian by Owen Jones?

Keir Starmer’s team attempted to rescue the political career of a 7 October “truther”, because he belonged to his faction. Cut out all the noise, and this is the core of the scandal involving Labour’s belatedly disowned candidate Azhar Ali in Rochdale...

Starmer told broadcasters that he had taken “decisive action” by withdrawing support for Ali. The facts tell us otherwise. Hours after this apology, shadow cabinet minister Lisa Nandy was dispatched to campaign alongside him. Meanwhile, her colleague Nick Thomas-Symonds took to the airwaves to make a passionate case of mitigation. He emphasised how apologetic Ali was, even making a plea for sympathy on the grounds that “people can get things very wrong” ...

[Ali’s] defenders point to his immediate apology and retraction, but the lack of credibility aside, leftwinger Diane Abbott also offered an immediate apology for comments she made in a letter to the Observer. But no one around Starmer sought to read her comments charitably and she was suspended immediately. Her suspension has lasted 10 months with an investigation into her comments clearly in the long grass ...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/14/labour-azhar-ali-rochdale-byelection

@Clavinova i misread the title of thread, you re right of course, it clearly names Owen Jones and Keir Starmer in it.

Yet again, instead of dealing with the issue "the donation of £10m by a man who called for the death of an MP" you try and divert onto totally unrelated subjects.

@Clavinova

The days when I took any notice of rent-a-gob Jones are long gone.

Sunak should return the money and cut off Hester politically for sure. Using it as a petty scoring point for internal Labour Party politics? Typical f'ing OJ.

£10m donation could well become £15m

https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/03/14/exclusive-tory-party-accepts-a-further-5m-from-controversial-frank-hester/

Alexandra2001
@ Clavinova i misread the title of thread, you re right of course, it clearly names Owen Jones and Keir Starmer in it.

Why did you post about Azhar Ali in Rochdale then? At least my link talks about Diane Abbott. I thought you were on the left of the Labour Party.

I'm surprised to hear DA is still suspended. What more is there to investigate? Her article was divisive at the time, and even more so now, but I think she's a victim of the KS's much needed drive to rid the party of antisemitism in the severity of her sanction. Azhar Ali strayed into full blown anti-Semitic conspiracy theory trope territory, while DA talked about her lived experience, however unfortunately decided to downplay racism experienced by others to make her cause appear more worthy. It was poor by her, but Ali was far worse. Labour was dragged kicking and screaming to do the right thing in Rochdale but threw the book at DA. It is hard to argue against factionist favoritism when comparing these.

Azhar Ali apologised so by Tory definition he is excused

I am surprised that no one has called you out on this post (or perhaps I'm not).

Sunak was head boy at his school.

Head boy? Was he elected by any chance?

£15 million buys a lot of FB adverts.

Yes he was.

The Tories seem to be intent on digging their electoral grave ever deeper. I say let them get on with it.

[Diane Abbott] herself has expressed disappointment in KS’s focus on the return of the money.

Yes - she is quoted here;

“The position of the current leadership of the Labour Party is disappointing, which seemed equally reluctant at the outset to call out either racism or sexism.

“Instead, the entire focus was on the demand that the Tories give Hester back his money, which is surely not the primary point in this case.”

Of course the primary point should be for Hester to acknowledge his racism and sexism and violent language (rather than his 'rudeness'). It was also open to the Conservative leadership themselves to address that head on.

Reports of the extra £5 million donation explains Hollindrake's comments yesterday that the Conservatives would be prepared to accept additional money from Hester. He knew that they already had.

And?

That hardly disproves the suggestion that RS got though school by letting arseholes be arseholes without challenging them, does it?

What a weirdly simpering comment.

Diane Abbott indeed also criticised her own party, guess to some that is a novel idea.

Redundantrobin

You really can't see anything wrong with Reugny's post?

Knew I could count on you to support adding balance to the conversation!

Nope. Minimising bullying, racism, bigotry as ‘banter’ seems exactly how to get on in areas where being different isn’t seen as a strength.

What did you see wrong with it?

Apart from it criticising a Tory, I mean.

Only novel to the kind of person who values party over policies, people and ethics.

You know, like how all the Tories of colour love enacting policies that would see even their own parents slung out on their ear.

L1ttledrummergirl
Eh. Dale Vince might be a complete twat, (and I have no time for him), but he's not a dodgy source of money.

New information about his questionable views emerged yesterday;

Jewish News
Labour have been put under pressure by the Conservatives over donations to the party from Dale Vince, after it emerged that the green campaigner recently said it was his view, when asked about Hamas;

”I think one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist, right? That’s how it works.”

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/labour-put-under-pressure-over-green-donor-vinces-hamas-remarks/

Redundantrobin
Minimising bullying, racism, bigotry as ‘banter’ seems exactly how to get on in areas where being different isn’t seen as a strength

I thought the 'bants' reference was attributed to Hester, not Sunak.

What did you see wrong with it?
Apart from it criticising a Tory, I mean.

Do I have to spell it out?

like how all the Tories of colour love enacting policies that would see even their own parents slung out on their ear

Are you trying to dig a bigger hole?

I thought the 'bants' reference was attributed to Hester, not Sunak.

Reugny’s post was implying that Sunak is happy to ignore bigotry (even if levelled at people like his family) if it suits his own interests.

Do I have to spell it out?

Yes you do.

Are you trying to dig a bigger hole?

I don’t seem to be the one in a hole here.

Redundantrobin
I don’t seem to be the one in a hole here

You are - you just don't know it obviously.