Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

Not someone I follow might I add. I just looked for DA posts on twitter.

Me too, and on a day I had a big official meeting. It must be lovely to never make a mistake. This shoes comment is just petty spite.

This thread is not about remarks made by Diane Abbott or Suella Braverman or Kemi Badenoch etc. It is about the overtly racist remarks made by a Tory donor towards Diane Abbott. I'm not sure why you're trying to change the subject?

I am no fan of Kemi Badenoch, but if someone stated that she made them want to hate all black women and that she should be shot, I would condemn those remarks unreservedly as being hideously racist. Wouldn't you?

I can't believe anyone could deny that the comment was racist. FFS.

Piggywaspushed
I have never heard anyone say 'we can get her sacked' but that death would be preferable. I am sure he thought at the time that he was being terribly entertaining and edgy. Like Bernard Manning. Or Jim Davidson.

The John McDonnell/Esther McVey incident was very similar;

[McDonnell] quoted a constituent, who had shouted out in a public meeting that instead of McVey, then a Work and Pensions minister, being sacked, Labour should “lynch the b***d”.

McDonnell said at the event: “I was up in Liverpool a fortnight ago where Alec McFadden, one of our (union) organisers, launched the Sack Esther McVey Day on her birthday...

John McConnell does not employ Esther McVey and never has. These are not comparable circumstances, he has no power over her future.

I will ask again. How is someone repeating what they heard anywhere near the same as someone saying TWO women should be killed??

And why does it mean that it's OK for Hester to say what he said? because the only reason it is being posted by a certain type here to to minimise what Hester said and to try and justify his words.

The John McDonnell/Esther McVey incident is clearly very similar to Piggywaspushed's example.

Please stop making excuses for weak people.
Sometimes in life you just have to tell your boss to do one.
What's the famous saying? Something like: the only thing required for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

What bearing does that incident have on whether or not the comments about Diane Abbott were racist?

Other than blatant whataboutery I don't understand why you keep linking it to this incident and suggesting it somehow means his comments about Diane Abbott are less racist?

Frank Hester has shown his racist attitude so let's see the government say a big 'no thanks' to accepting his filthy money from now on.... or NOT, as I suspect will be the case.

Diane Abbott is a hardworking, effective constituency and parliamentary MP with a voting record she'd have no issue standing by on ethical grounds - unlike so many of our other elected representatives who claim to be our voice in the seat of power.

justteanbiscuits
And why does it mean that it's OK for Hester to say what he said?

I didn't say it was OK - the very first thing I posted on this thread was;
Hester's remarks were clearly unacceptable.

You can't bring yourself to criticise John McDonnell though - neither could Diane Abbott;
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5028637/Diane-Abbott-refused-condemn-McDonnell-lynching-jibe.html

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1767581854742299110

Well well well.

I'd rather not be dragged into TeamClav, thanks.

"Hester's remarks were clearly unacceptable."

Why do you think Hester's comments were unacceptable?

Could those wanting to talk about John McConnell please make a different thread to do so? This one is supposed to be about the racist remarks made by Frank Hester.

And for once, could we please just have one thread in which people can honestly acknowledge that blatant racism is racism and that it's wrong, without anyone trying to justify or minimise it by bringing up a whole load of unrelated drivel about other people?

Oh for god's sake Clav. You are like a dog with a maggoty bone with the McDonnell/McVey thing. Yes, it was a deeply unpleasant and unwise thing to repeat. But it has nothing to do with Hester's racist and violent comments.

Start a thread about McDonnell then. Using this thread is just whataboutery. And makes it sound very much like you are saying "he said x, but someone else said y, so that makes x OK".

And as I keep saying. Can you understand the difference between "they should be shot" and "I heard others say...". I'm thinking you can't.

He opened his quoted comments with “It’s like trying not to be racist but…”. Which tells you what you need to know in itself. Why does he have to ‘try not to be racist’? What does that involve?

What an absolutely disgusting excuse of a man, i can see how Diane Abbot gets negative press at times and i can't say i'm a fan but what on earth has the colour of her skin or any other woman's skin got to do with anything?
I feel very sorry for her at the moment .
Every penny should be returned and he should be shunned by the Tories , thats not going to happen though is it !

Thank you. It is racist, wrong and theres no need to compare to anyone else or to ask posters to condemn someone else for similar things or whatever irrelevant thing is brought up. This man is scary if you ask me and he is inciting hatred.

I am not trying to change the subject, just pointing out the double standard on MN between what people can say about DA and what they can say about Tory WOC without being deleted.

And in answer to your question, not only would I condemn those remarks as racist, but I did condemn them. For the evidence see my first post on the the thread.

I can. To some as long as a racial slur isn’t used, it is not racism. 🙄

Do you have some sort of alert set up for yourself, when even a Tory racist says something racist you can rush to defend them on the Internet? You must have had your work cut out with your favourite Tory racist BJ.

Loads of Tories have already come out to say exactly that.