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Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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VestibuleVirgin · 12/03/2024 07:15

Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

Tory donor Frank Hester apologises over 'reprehensible' comments about Diane Abbott

Frank Hester has admitted making ‘rude’ comments about the politician but said they had ‘nothing to do with her gender nor colour of skin’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

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whatsitcalledwhen · 12/03/2024 14:56

@Clavinova

I would have more respect for you if you said that you believe his comments are objectively racist and so were those made by Diane Abbot previously.

But you've done a strange whataboutery thing where you seem incapable of saying his comments are objectively racist while suggesting that hers were.

It's very odd.

Without bringing her previous comments into it (as they have no bearing on whether or not his comments were racist), do you believe that his comments were objectively racist? Not probably, but objectively racist?

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 14:57

“We need to move on” is how my colleagues respond to more vile racism coming from @Conservatives

The comments about @HackneyAbbott are appalling, need to be condemned by the PM and the donation returned

Elections fought on the money of donors who make racist and offensive statements makes for dangerous election campaigns.

x.com/SayeedaWarsi/status/1767517339228999734?s=20

HannibalHeyes · 12/03/2024 14:59

Piggywaspushed · 12/03/2024 13:10

Unacceptable in what way clav?

Can you bring yourself to say a Tory donor is a racist?

Of course not, then she wouldn't get paid...

Clavinova · 12/03/2024 15:01

Grapesarenottheonlyfruit
@ Clavinova you were uncertain about Russian aka putin supporters donating to the Tory party, here’s some reading

Why have the Good Law Project named Alexander Temerko?

Temerko wrote this article in the Guardian in 2015 -

Britain should arm Ukraine, says Tory donor

So when Putin retorts that “no one needs a conflict on the periphery of Europe”, he is not speaking for himself. We cannot, and must not, believe a single word he says...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/11/britain-should-arm-ukraine

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 15:02

Clavinova · 12/03/2024 14:35

I said Hester's comments probably were racist. Do you think Diane Abbott's tweet was racist? She claims not.

Probably? Does that mean that you don’t recognise blatant racism when it’s staring you in the face?

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:03

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LadyKenya · 12/03/2024 15:04

Looks like you have some company Clavinova.

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:05

Not gonna call out this extreme racism? Or only when it's aimed at Diane?

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 15:05

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And this fake Labour poster is relevant why?

SoLuckyToHaveYou · 12/03/2024 15:06

Sunak must return Hester’s donations, and PDQ IMO. Otherwise I predict his time as premier will be over much sooner than predicted.

whatsitcalledwhen · 12/03/2024 15:06

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Just leaning this here too, from Reuters. Care to retract yours?

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-abbott-quote/fact-check-no-evidence-that-quote-attributed-to-diane-abbott-about-white-people-and-immigration-is-real-idUSL1N2YO0FD/

VERDICT
False. There is no evidence Diane Abbott ever said white people, not immigration, are the problem in Britain. The meme has been circulating baselessly for years.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work heree_.

bombastix · 12/03/2024 15:06

SoLuckyToHaveYou · 12/03/2024 15:06

Sunak must return Hester’s donations, and PDQ IMO. Otherwise I predict his time as premier will be over much sooner than predicted.

Yes. Looks like Hester's company pays for Sunak's helicopter on occasion.

bombastix · 12/03/2024 15:07

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:05

Not gonna call out this extreme racism? Or only when it's aimed at Diane?

Why are you putting out something that is false? What's in it for you?

whatsitcalledwhen · 12/03/2024 15:08

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:05

Not gonna call out this extreme racism? Or only when it's aimed at Diane?

Bit awkward for you to be honest, mate, considering this from Reuters www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-abbott-quote/fact-check-no-evidence-that-quote-attributed-to-diane-abbott-about-white-people-and-immigration-is-real-idUSL1N2YO0FD/

VERDICT
False. There is no evidence Diane Abbott ever said white people, not immigration, are the problem in Britain. The meme has been circulating baselessly for years.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work heree_.

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 15:08

whatsitcalledwhen · 12/03/2024 15:06

Just leaning this here too, from Reuters. Care to retract yours?

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-abbott-quote/fact-check-no-evidence-that-quote-attributed-to-diane-abbott-about-white-people-and-immigration-is-real-idUSL1N2YO0FD/

VERDICT
False. There is no evidence Diane Abbott ever said white people, not immigration, are the problem in Britain. The meme has been circulating baselessly for years.
This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work heree_.

Was just about to post the same!

Do you want to report your post for being fake @scorpiogirly or should one of us do it?

Honestly, it is daft posting lies when a few seconds googling shows the truth.

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:09

I stand corrected. I'll look into this and apologise if this is indeed false.

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 15:09

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:09

I stand corrected. I'll look into this and apologise if this is indeed false.

It is. Can you have it deleted, please.

LadyKenya · 12/03/2024 15:10

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:09

I stand corrected. I'll look into this and apologise if this is indeed false.

What was the purpose of posting that in the first place though? What was your intention?

IClaudine · 12/03/2024 15:10

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:09

I stand corrected. I'll look into this and apologise if this is indeed false.

You've just been shown that it is. Or do you think Reuters lie?

Lwrenn · 12/03/2024 15:12

I've just seen this and ran here to see what you lasses have said on the matter.

Fuck me Frank, what an abhorrent shitehawk you are.

Somewhere, there is a pavement missing Frank underneath it.

newnamethanks · 12/03/2024 15:12

Poison. More poison. And more lies. Who was expecting better from the party to whom shame is a stranger?

Westfacing · 12/03/2024 15:12

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:09

I stand corrected. I'll look into this and apologise if this is indeed false.

Of course it's false!

whatsitcalledwhen · 12/03/2024 15:13

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:09

I stand corrected. I'll look into this and apologise if this is indeed false.

I've shared links to Reuters, a global news agency, confirming through their fact checking team that it's false.

It is false.

Hopefully it's deleted so it doesn't whip up more vitriol against Diane Abbott.

Can I ask where you found the picture you shared? As I would like to report it to relevant admins if on social media or a news site. I'm sure others would like to as well so I would appreciate you sharing on here.

I'm sure you will report it to wherever you found it too as obviously now you know it's fake you can see how dangerous it is for a racist quote or be attributed to a black MP already on the receiving end of scarily regular death and rape threats.

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:16

Actually found it on twitter.

BIossomtoes · 12/03/2024 15:17

scorpiogirly · 12/03/2024 15:16

Actually found it on twitter.

Hope you’ve reported to the X admin team so it can be deleted there too.

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