Tory donor openly states Dianne Abbot should be shot..

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Frank Hestor reportedly said: “It’s like trying not to be racist but you see Diane Abbott on the TV, and you’re just like… you just want to hate all black women because she’s there.
“And I don’t hate all black women at all, but I think she should be shot.
“(The executive) and Diane Abbott need to be shot.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/frank-hester-tory-donor-diane-abbott-comments-black-women-labour-b1144631.html

Abominable, disgusting. Aibu to be incecsed by this?
Money allows all sorts of behaviours apparently, particularly if you give a lot of it to a political party.

She said " ''White people love playing 'divide & rule'""

Pretty sure this thread is the perfect example of that with all the "saying she should be shot is bad BUT..."

Racist apologists on this thread should be ashamed of yourself.

whatsitcalledwhen
What is the relevance of her previous comments to the racist comments made by this man?

There were some similarities in the comments she made which she claimed were not racist and taken out of context.

Fuck all to do with the matter at hand.

Yep

I think you're right. In fact comments like that could win them a few voters back from Reform.

I am currently listening to LBC referring to the comments as 'alleged comments' - why would they say that?

Because they were made in a private business meeting 5 years ago where he also talked about wanting to shoot an unnamed company executive alongside DA (for what exactly, we do not know) and I'm guessing that whoever leaked the story now has not made a verified transcript public. Either there isn't one so it's hearsay, or there is one, but it's not been released.

Although as he's apologised to DA he clearly knows he's guilty as charged.

What bearing does that have on whether or not the specific comments made by this specific man about her are racist?

They never are though, they just keep coming back with their whatabouts, and nonsense, to justify their own, and others racism.

Which Russian donors? Any names or just speculation?

Zero

I may have missed your point in the hundreds of post, so indulge me…

Of what relevance is Dianne’s 2012 comments to what is being discussed?

Are you arguing that what the man said is not racist, not misogynistic because Dianne’s comment invalidates his racism?

I said Hester's comments probably were racist. Do you think Diane Abbott's tweet was racist? She claims not.

Probably?!

You’d die holding your breath for that one, unfortunately.
They unashamedly spread their bile all across MN - you’ll find plenty on AIBU, Chat, Black Mumsnet, and I’ve heard they feast on the Royal Family threads.

Why do you think it is relevant?

Why are you defending John McDonnell?

Probably?

What could probably make them not racist?

Disgusting thing to say, and of course it's racist and sexist, trying to say it's not is making it worse!

Clav, stop trying to derail. This thread is not about what McDonnell said about McVey. It is about Hester's racism towards Diane Abbott.

There is so much irrelevant whataboutery on this thread.

This Tory donor's comments were hideously racist. The Tory party has a problem with racism. That is what the thread is about. The fact that other people may or may not be racist bears no relevance to the discussion. Racist or potentially racist comments made by other people neither excuse the comments made by this miserable excuse for a man, not do they make his remarks any less racist.

Posters should stop trying to divert attention away from this man's overt racism and misogyny. If you are not a racist yourself, then the only reasonable action is to condemn it, without reservation or qualification.

Well said@MrsBennetsPoorNerves .

Absolutely @MrsBennetsPoorNerves

@Clavinova you were uncertain about Russian aka putin supporters donating to the Tory party, here’s some reading
https://goodlawproject.org/revealed-the-tories-are-still-receiving-funds-from-russia-linked-donors/#:~:text=Our%20investigation%20has%20found%20that,Tory%20coffers%20in%202023%20alone.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-donations-russia-lubov-chernukhin-b2026678.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/23/tories-will-keep-russia-linked-donations-totalling-193-million/
plenty to keep you going but surprised you weren’t aware….

And his only 'punishment' will probably be to get his £10 million back.