Are you a socialist? What about your child? Or are you anti-abortion? Maybe anti-Monarchist? A communist? Do you know someone who is like that? Then the Government thinks you are showing signs of extremism and should be referred to Prevent

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And if you are a teacher, then you have a professional duty to report them

Socialism, anti-fascism and anti-abortion on Prevent list of terrorism warning signs | Prevent strategy | The Guardian

A document from Prevent, the official scheme to stop radicalisation, includes believing in socialism, communism, anti-fascism and anti-abortion in a list of potential signs of ideologies leading to terrorism.

It comes as the Conservative government considers widening what it will consider to be extremism.

The document is part of online Prevent awareness training for those covered by the duty to inform if they suspect radicalisation. That includes teachers and youth workers.

In a section on the left wing it states: “Two broad ideologies: socialism and communism. Each are united by a set of grievance narratives which underline their cause.”
In a section on single-issue ideologies, the document reads: “Narratives are likely to come from those who seek to change a specific policy or practice, as opposed to replacing the whole economic, political or social system. Examples include animal rights, anti-abortion or anti-fascism. Single-issue narratives can be politically agnostic, meaning they may be neither right nor left aligned.”

Neil Basu, a former police head of counter-terrorism, said: “That is far too nebulous, and there is no qualification. It might lead to unforeseen consequences such as overwhelming the system and bringing the system into disrepute.

The document:

You need to do the training to see the document

Awareness course | Prevent duty training (support-people-susceptible-to-radicalisation.service.gov.uk)

There was someone speaking the other week about banning peaceful protests about a war, because they didn't like some of the people protesting...

It does give a new connotation to the phrase "radicalised by mumsnet"

Clearly I need to report my 86yo Conservative voting mum fir cultural nationalism.

Random people can rant as much as they want on the internet.

It doesn't mean they're going to get what they want or that it forms a solid basis in law.

It wasn't on the internet, I heard a recording of if on the radio...
I think they were upset by a democratic vote.

I wonder how many people are being radicalised with their views because of their views being echoed back to them in filter chambers so they get more and more angry?

Have you looked into the kind of propaganda that was being spread in the runup to WW1? The influence may have been less direct, but it was absolutely there. You just need to dig a little deeper to see it. You could legitimately argue that WW1 gave rise to the fascist movements that were so instrumental in WW2, but the rise of toxic nationalism that is part of the roots of fascism was there before WW1. These things are never simple.

And even if you are fully and 100% correct, comparing the influence of the Antifa movement to fascism in terms of is negative effects is still ridiculous.

Mind you, the fact that you focus all your ire on the left tells me all I need to know.

Good for them, it still doesn't mean their words have any weight in law.

The Prevent scheme is designed to watch for signs of radicalisation. These are many and varied. Most of them, on their own, would not be cause for concern. A bit like a headache on its own isn't a problem, but if you have other symptoms like visual disturbances then you have a serious issue on your hands.

The OP seems to be implying that soon it will be dangerous or banned to be e.g. socialist or anti abortionist, because these could be potential signs of radicalisation.

It's not, it's just trying to whip up outrage. The Prevent scheme has to be comprehensive and cover all eventualities.

Think of it like safeguarding. You have to assume that the worst could happen.

Did this person grip a lectern?

Well you only have to read MN for a short while to see this in action....

A poster on here thought l should be referred to Prevent because of my socialist values😂😂😂 She seemed extremely right wing.

I was also accused of treason for being an anti monarchist.

You do realise it was the Prime Minister that's being talked about?

And who knows where the threshold for reporting is - especially given the implications if you don't report?

What would happen if you didn't report that person who then committed an act of terrorism?

Bring it on. The pictured groups who describe themselves as "Anti-Facist" are little different to the Brownshirts or Tommy Robinson's mob (also pictured)

It doesn't matter who it is who's being talked about.

As to the threshold, you'd need to undergo the Prevent training. But I can guarantee you it won't be "just having socialist views".

A teacher could then be prosecuted. So I think we have a duty to report the afforementioned person who has clearly been radicalised.

What other symptoms should we consider before we report this person?
In ability to tell the truth?
Delusions?

Showing signs of radicalisation.

Those who work in front-line support roles will often be the first to notice if someone displays changes in their behaviour.
There could be many different drivers behind these types of changes in behaviour, not just radicalisation. So, it's important to understand why these changes are happening, before jumping to any conclusions.
Here are some examples of changes in behaviour that may indicate radicalisation in a person.

Online behaviour

• rmore than one online identity
• spending more time online and accessing extremist online content
• downloading propaganda material

Increasingly agitated or violent behaviour

• rmore argumentative in their viewpoints
• being abusive to others
• justifying the use of violence to solve societal issues

Changing associations

• changed friends
• altered their style of dress or appearance to accord with an extremist group
• using a new vocabulary
• isolated from friends and family
• Increasingly anti-social behaviours
• unwilling to engage with people who are different
• secretive and reluctant to discuss their whereabouts
• adopted the use of certain symbols associated with terrorist organisations

At what point would you get concerned?

If you want to know, why not undertake the training yourself?

OP has posted lists of other risk factors.

And when we have and they say that socialist views or being anti-abortion can be signs and we should report them...

From the training so far, that would concern me.

Obviously it wouldn't - but if I was following the guidance, then technically people should be reported.

Better to report lots of people in the hope you might catch one, rather than not report at all?

Is being full of irrational hate for immigrants a sign?

Does Laurence Fox meet the level?
How about Neil Oliver?

You could certainly tick many of those things off the list for them

Best get them reported too.

Does it mean that Trump is banned from coming to the UK?