Are you a socialist? What about your child? Or are you anti-abortion? Maybe anti-Monarchist? A communist? Do you know someone who is like that? Then the Government thinks you are showing signs of extremism and should be referred to Prevent

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And if you are a teacher, then you have a professional duty to report them

Socialism, anti-fascism and anti-abortion on Prevent list of terrorism warning signs | Prevent strategy | The Guardian

A document from Prevent, the official scheme to stop radicalisation, includes believing in socialism, communism, anti-fascism and anti-abortion in a list of potential signs of ideologies leading to terrorism.

It comes as the Conservative government considers widening what it will consider to be extremism.

The document is part of online Prevent awareness training for those covered by the duty to inform if they suspect radicalisation. That includes teachers and youth workers.

In a section on the left wing it states: “Two broad ideologies: socialism and communism. Each are united by a set of grievance narratives which underline their cause.”
In a section on single-issue ideologies, the document reads: “Narratives are likely to come from those who seek to change a specific policy or practice, as opposed to replacing the whole economic, political or social system. Examples include animal rights, anti-abortion or anti-fascism. Single-issue narratives can be politically agnostic, meaning they may be neither right nor left aligned.”

Neil Basu, a former police head of counter-terrorism, said: “That is far too nebulous, and there is no qualification. It might lead to unforeseen consequences such as overwhelming the system and bringing the system into disrepute.

The document:

You need to do the training to see the document

Awareness course | Prevent duty training (support-people-susceptible-to-radicalisation.service.gov.uk)

From the course so far:

What radicalisation is

Radicalisation is the process of a person legitimising support for, or use of, terrorist violence. It's where terrorism begins. People might be susceptible to radicalisation due to a variety of circumstances, needs or other underlying factors. There is no single model of someone's radicalisation journey or single profile of a radicalised person.

What radicalisation can look like
Extremist material online

Radicalisers groom people using online platforms. There are also web pages which are not so noticeable, such as social media networking groups that draw people in. These groups look innocent on the outside but are actually extremist groups.

Public displays of hate and division

Radicalisation can draw on all forms of extremism. For example, extremism can lead to a public display such as racially antagonistic graffiti. This might represent the actions of someone who has taken on board an ideology.

The adoption of icons or symbolism

Icons and symbols are often a demonstration that someone is bonding to a group, cause or ideology. People can be drawn to imagery which they see as rebellious and socially challenging.

In person meetings

Radicalisation can occur in a person and can appear quite benign. There may be scenarios that look normal on the outside, such as people meeting in a public park or at a local library, that seem safe and innocent, but where a person is actually at risk.

Promoting ideologies

Extremist groups use a range of means to promote their ideologies. For example, a protest or handing out material that promotes hatred and division.

oh dear. do I have to report myself?

I'm a socialist (with ancestors who were very strongly connected with communism)
strongly anti monarchist

and finally... the big one (drumroll please) an Asian, hijabi Muslim GC biological woman

I will just go and quietly hand myself over to the authorities...

Well, we know this government doesn't like protest. It's odd that they've decided to make all of us some kind of radical though. I mean, I'm anti-monarchy, a socialist and anti-fascism. Not big on communism and I'm the exact opposite of anti-abortion (why isn't that considered radical?).

Joking aside, this trend is concerning. We should all be anti fascist because that's where this government is heading.

Extremism is the vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, of:

• democracy
• the rule of law
• individual liberty
• mutual respect and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs

So Boris Johnson is an extremist then?

An ideology is a set of beliefs or narratives for the purpose of supporting a particular worldview. An extremist ideology is one that is intolerant of generally accepted values of society.
It's important to remember that not all extremist groups will commit terrorist or violent acts. However, some groups pose particular threats, both online and offline.
A broad range of ideologies and narratives draw people into supporting or committing acts of terrorism.
Terrorist ideologies encompass a range of religious, political, nationalist or other single-issue, or emerging ideologies that may contribute to making a person susceptible to radicalisation.
Broadly, these are categorised as:

• Islamist terrorist ideology
• extreme right-wing terrorist ideology
• left-wing, anarchist and single-issue ideologies

Well this is interesting given views on immigration

The 3 most common subcategories of extreme right-wing terrorist ideologies and their narratives are:
Cultural nationalism
'Western culture' is under threat from mass migration and a lack of integration by certain ethnic and cultural groups.
White/ethno-nationalism
Mass migration from the 'non-white world' and demographic change poses an existential threat to the 'white race' and 'Western culture'.
White supremacism
The 'white race' is biologically, culturally and spiritually superior to all other races, often calling for the replacement of Western parliamentary democracy with an alternative form of government, ranging from fascist regimes to ethno-tribalism

And here it is:

Left-wing, anarchist and single-issue ideologies are categorised as:
Left-wing
Two broad ideologies: socialism and communism. Each are united by a set of grievance narratives which underline their cause.
Anarchism
Seeks the abolition of the state, rejecting all forms of hierarchal structures and authority. Anarchism is often considered to be one of the more radical political left-wing ideologies, however some anarchist schools of thought fall outside the left-wing spectrum, for example anarcho-capitalism and nihilism. This is why it has been separated out as a distinct strand.
Single issue
Narratives are likely to come from those who seek to change a specific policy or practice, as opposed to replacing the whole economic, political or social system. Examples include, animal rights, anti-abortion or anti-fascism. Single-issue narratives can be politically agnostic, meaning they may be neither right nor left aligned.

Oh

Established terrorist narratives exhibit common themes such as:

• antisemitism
• misogyny
• anti-establishment
• anti-LGBTQ+ grievances
• religious or ethnic superiority

Conspiracy theories can act as gateways to radicalised thinking and sometimes violence. In some cases, a blurring of ideologies with personal narratives makes it harder to assess the risk that people may pose. Less well recognised motivations, such as:

• involuntary celibates (incels)
• left-wing
• eco-terrorism

could also meet the threshold of terrorist intent or action. Commitment to and knowledge of ideology can also vary significantly.

However:

• To recap on terrorismTerrorism is not the same as extremism
• Not all extremist groups will commit terrorist or violent acts.
• Terrorism is more than an attack
• Below the surface is hidden activity that builds up leading to violence.
• Terrorism starts with attracting people
• Extremist groups and radicalisers aim to incite someone to support terrorism or become a terrorist themselves.

I didn't think thread titles that long were even possible?! 😳

Surely a lot of people in the UK could be accused of cultural nationalism ? Isn't that what brexit was?

I think I need to report Suella Braverman, Lee Anderson and Liz Truss - I am concerned that they are being radicalised. And also Laurence Fox as well.

When they did the in person prevent training at my school there were an awful lot of eyes being rolled and afterwards a number of people pointed out that it was pretty racist and generally not good.

The deputy head who had landed the job of having to deliver it apologised and said the materials were awful but we legally had to do the training.

We can go together 😀

Considering the behaviour of certain groups on the left particularly the eco nuts and the trans rights activists I say bring it on.
I'm fed up of masked men threatening, intimidating, abusing and assaulting women for talking about our rights whilst they brandish signs with death threats and threats of violence against women.
I'm also sick and tired of predominantly middle class kids blocking roads preventing people from getting to work, school and medical appointments. Not to mention the vandalism.
This change is long overdue and BTW antifa are as bad if not worse than facists

If you think Antifa activists are worse than actual fascists, you really need to go back to school and read up on some history. I mean, that's the stupidest statement I have read on Mumsnet in at least 5 years, and I'm a prolific Mumsnet user. 🙄

If you look at the violent methods used by antifa towards anyone that they deem as having "right wing" affiliations (you know anyone who is gc, Christian, Jewish or just not a left wing nut job) then compare that with the fascists you will see that they are two side of the same coin

I work for an organisation that does government contracts. I am openly socialist at work and I promise you nobody gives a monkeys. Part of my role is to actually look for people displaying signs of extremism and being a socialist isn't one of them. I am vehemently pro choice but, unless they were actively anti abortion - ie picketing hospitals, demonstrations, its just their own (wrong) view.

Violent methods? You mean the rioting that happened in the US, in which heavy handed police tactics were a factor?

Please also define 'left wing nut job' because by your lights I probably am one and I'd like to know so I can get a badge and wear it with pride.

Also I reiterate: Fascism gave us two world wars. Antifa isn't even in that ballpark. We've barely heard from them recently.

The main threat right now is from the extreme right.

Fascism gave us 1 World War not two. World War 1 was about imperialism not fascism 🤣🤣🤣
For @pointythings

Are you trying to describe that NatCs?

You're being deliberately disingenuous.

A lot of warning signs for many issues, when on their own are not a problem.

When they're part of a pattern or in certain contexts however it's a different story.

No-one is going to be snatched off the street and chucked into a prevent program for having socialist or anti-abortionist views.

Checking in for my reprogramming 🙋

Maybe they're planning on arresting all of the opposition Labour MP's to stop a GE?

The irony of all of this coming to a head in UK because we want to stop the bombing in Gaza and for some aid to be sent to civilians 😅

USA has sent aid; do we now not have the "special relationship" because of that?