Assigned Female at Birth - AFAB

[ShugarTits]

AIBU to get the actual rage every time I see this written down? Often in reputable sources.

Obviously this has come about due to people differentiating between gender and sex - I understand needing clarity between those two when talking to or questioning people.

but every single bloody time I read it I can only think of the horrific female infanticide statistics. AIBU to think ‘assigned female at birth’ is fucking offensive to women, as so many of us are killed at birth ONLY because we are female. Nobody assigned those infants a female sex, they didn’t just randomly pick half of the babies and murder them.

can’t we agree as a society to call out AFAB and AMAB as being horrific and change it? Happy to hear alternatives. Observed female/male at birth sounds reasonable to me if you need to specify birth sex vs gender.

Oh thank goodness for that!!

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

“Somebody was upset about the word “assigned” because they thought it meant a doctor arbitrarily assigned women to violence and death in societies where that is more common.”

no. I don’t think that doctors arbitrarily assign infants as women to violence and death. Doctors don’t assign shit, that’s the fucking point.

they observe, but you don’t like the term observe.

what’s wrong with the language ‘recorded sex at birth’ in place of AFAB/AMAB?

I considered that if it’s “tough” for trans people to be subject to prejudice and non-inclusive language due to unchangeable circumstances related to sex/gender - then the same logic should apply to women (or anyone of any sex).

Whaaaaat??

What same logic?

Nothing in what you said makes sense. A trans person subject to fucking non-inclusive language (get over yourself you callow twonk) is not fucking logically the same as violence or death of women and girls.

You said: I get that some women and girls suffer death and violence because of their sex and I recognise it. And empathise. But to be blunt, tough. There's lots of things in life that people don't like but can't change. Sex is one of them.

You can fuck right off.

They tried to impose words into a point I was making and failed spectacularly.

Yeah, I've calmed down now. But still.

The language is conflicting because one is fact based and the other ideological

Given we have to choose reality based would be the way to go, as we don’t override facts with other ideologies

All the ridiculous nonsense should stop. Baby is born. It is a boy or a girl.
Fact. End of .

Oh wait to they did mean that…