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To confront family tension due to how I feed my baby?

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Chunkychips23 · 03/03/2024 09:21

I’ve always had a great relationship with my MIL. I adored her and we’d regularly spend time together up until my pregnancy became high risk. I spent most of the 3rd trimester in hospital for monitoring due to complications and the need to be ready to deliver my baby at a moments notice.

On one of the days I was allowed home for the day, she popped over to visit. She asked me out of the blue how I was planning to feed my baby. I answered I was going to try breastfeeding but wouldn’t beat myself up if I didn’t like it/couldnt do it. She went off on one, which was so out of character. She said that I’d be selfish to breastfeed as nobody else would be able to feed baby, I’d get no support, young women do it just for attention, it starves babies, she formula fed all of her children and they were fine, none of her other grandkids were BF and they turned out ok so why do I need to be so special - she tried to BF and it didn’t work out, so she knows it’s best to formula feed. I was so confused that I’d said something wrong, I even went back and re-watched the conversation on our indoor security camera to see if I’d said something particularly triggering. I honestly don’t care how people feed or have fed their babies. You do what works/worked best for you and your baby. Fed is best! Formula fed babies are just as happy and healthy as BF babies. I really don’t see what the big deal is!

Fast forward to baby’s arrival. We’d asked for no visitors in the hospital as we didn’t know how I’d be after surgery. I did have a massive haemorrhage so was quite unwell, but MIL turned up to hospital anyway. I felt obliged to allow her in, but I was in a rough way. As soon as she arrived, she picked up the baby and commented on how he was so small, I’d need to formula feed him to make sure he didn’t starve, but I was ‘one of them’ so wouldn’t. (Baby was born purposely prematurely to save both of our lives, so was tiny) I was a bit taken aback, but didn’t say anything. My DH said that we’d need to keep the visit short as he wanted to ensure I got rest and time to bond with our baby. MIL said I was welcome to go back to bed as she was just there to visit baby anyway.

I put all that aside and tried to keep our relationship as normal as possible. I’d send her regular pictures and baby updates. As she lives close by, she’d pop over regularly and unannounced, expecting to be hosted. 3 days postpartum she walked in, took baby out of my arms and told me to put the kettle on and dig out the biscuits (DH had nipped to the supermarket - I could barely walk!) Every single time, I was met with negative comments. Baby become jaundiced and that was my fault as I was starving him. If only I put my own selfish desires to breastfeed on the back burner, I’d have a healthy baby. I was still very weak post delivery so really didn’t have the energy to say anything back. As baby wasn’t sleeping through the night (what brand new newborn does?!) she said I’d be begging her to help by the end of the week and she’d be happy to help me with formula feeding. On top of this, she bombarded my DH with messages about it saying she was concerned I wasn’t thinking of my child and just wanted to show off (I never BF in front on anyone but my DH or own DM)

I then started to get messages from my DH’s family trying to discourage me from BF. MIL was making out to the family that I was struggling to BF and being pressured into continuing (I really wasn’t, it was just the option that was working best for me and baby) It was so bizarre and stressful. DH stepped in and asked him family to back off.

A week after we were home, she brought round her extended family who I’d never met to meet the baby. It was so awkward as she sat there instructing me and DH to make drinks and get them food, whilst she showed off baby and how tiny and underfed etc. Her relatives were so uncomfortable. DH asked MIL to wash her hands before holding baby and she said ‘well I thought breastfeeding was superior and gave superhuman abilities against germs’

Over Christmas, she had a large family gathering and my DH and I made the decision it was best for baby to not to go, due to being a few weeks old and MIL’s hostility towards BF. I’d have been very uncomfortable trying to feed baby in her home and I wasn’t able to pump much at that stage to have enough for a few bottle feeds. I was made out to be horrible and blocking her family from seeing baby and DH should have just taken baby and gone via the shop to get formula and there would have been no issue. Baby was premature and vulnerable. Even if I wasn’t BF, we’d have made the same decision to keep baby away from large gatherings. I was mocked at that gathering, leaving my DH and SD feeling really uncomfortable and upset.

Months later she is still obsessed. Constantly asking about babies weight and comparing my DC to her formula fed ones. I pump so DH can give baby a bottle every now and then and the one time he did that in front of her, she got her phone out and started filming, then sat there sending it off to whoever, laughing. She tried to get my SD onside by saying ‘doesn’t it bother you that you can’t feed your baby sibling’ - SD was confused and said ‘no, why would it’ Ugh, it was just so uncomfortable!

I’ve just had enough of the comments. From accusations of starving my baby to trying to shame me in front of her family. Everything from ‘he wants a bottle, look, he’s begging for it’ to ‘you’re a smelly baby, mummy obviously doesn’t eat properly as BF baby poo isn’t supposed to smell’ and ‘you can stop doing it now. There is no benefits to BF past two weeks, now it’s just for attention’

I feel like I need to have a conversation with her about this, as I’m so tired of just having to ignore her and not respond, so I don’t risk upsetting her. I’ve had months of relentless digs and comments. My baby is happy, healthy and meeting milestones.

I do want to get my relationship back with MIL, which is why I’ve not retaliated or responded. She’s has access to baby whenever she’s wanted and I’ve not stopped her forming a bond with him. But for my sanity, I feel like I need to sit down with her and talk this through. DH says he’s handling it, but as it’s continued, i don’t think he is.

Would I be unreasonable to arrange a face to face with MIL and confront her?

OP posts:
Stillwaitingfor · 03/03/2024 14:13

She absolutely needs to be read the riot act. I'm amazed it hasn't happened already... What a selfish, thoughtless, childish, stupid woman she is.

Pinkfrlls · 03/03/2024 14:14

Your husband needs to step up and tell her to shut up or she won't be seeing the baby at all. In fact, in your shoes I might be at that point already. I tried to breast feed and failed - supply side problems. I certainly don't harangue people into formula feeding just because I couldn't breastfeed myself. I would be losing all respect for him for being so utterly wet. I believe the role of the grandmother is to assist the mother with what the mother wants to do and never offer unasked for advice. My mother was very good at doing this though I am sure she sometimes had to bite her tongue.

Seriously and I know the Mumsnet tendency to be unqualified armchair psychologists but is your MIL quite well? Could it be some sign of early dementia because this is not normal behaviour? Summoning extended family to to marvel at how small a week old premature baby is beyond rude. I cannot see how your relationship with your MIL can ever recover after this unforgiveable behaviour.

yourlobster · 03/03/2024 14:16

There's thread after thread on here about people tying themselves in knots for crazy unreasonable relatives and zero boundaries.

I generally agree with each managing their own family drama but in this case someone needs to take control.

'It's absolutely none of your business how I feel or otherwise parent my baby. You accept this or back off completely.'

That's it. No drama, no long winded discussions.

Stop or we won't see you. Your choice.

SchnitzelvonKrummWithAVeryLowTum · 03/03/2024 14:17

Oh OP I really feel for you. You are doing brilliantly feeding your baby and the last thing you need is your batshit MIL interfering. It is up to you how you feed YOUR baby!
when she starts her crap I would be inclined to whip my boob out and spray her in the face whilst bundling her out of the door!

Ariona · 03/03/2024 14:20

Why oh why do you keep running after this woman?? This is also your fault. You should have immediately set her straight. Why do you keep giving her updates ? And WhY are you only asking now if you should have a conversation about this??

Justleaveitblankthen · 03/03/2024 14:27

That was a painful read.
Sorry OP but find your voice!!
She's atrocious and needs to be told. Flowers

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 03/03/2024 14:28

ExtraOnions · 03/03/2024 09:33

Why are you worried about upsetting her, when she is not worried about upsetting you ?

Short Term .. keep your door locked so she can’t drop in, stop going visiting her, sarcastic answers only “how much does the baby weigh” “5 stone”, and, as much as possible, don’t engage.

It’s not your job to keep her happy.

This. ^
Yet you and DH are so worried about upsetting her? Because telling her how you feel and that she should stop this nasty behaviour will upset her. You need to say it whether it upsets her or not. If she wants to be treated with "respect" she needs to treat you respectfully.

I don't think you will get back your previous relationship with her.
Rather than regaining the past, what you need to is to establish a relationship with her that you can put up with from now on. It wont be as close as before as you need to be more defensive and firm with her. She does it because she knows she can get away with it and it makes her feel powerful. Don't give her that power.

I think a sit down where you ask her to be reasonable won't work, unless you have DH there. She will deny it all and throw it back on you.
Instead Call her out on it every time. There and then. You know what to expect now... so Have some calm prepared phrases up your sleeve.. eg rude comment. "That may be, but I'm doing it this way and that is the end of the discussion." or even "For once and for all BF is none of your business so stop going on about it. More tea? " And see a lot less of her until she complies.

Needtofixmyageingskin · 03/03/2024 14:31

I felt sick reading this. She sounds unhinged. Why do you want to preserve a relationship with her she's awful and not healthy for you and baby to be around that. I think I'd refuse to see her unless she properly apologised.

ProfessorPeppy · 03/03/2024 14:32

I think your DH saying, ‘You will have no contact with my family until you learn to respect my wife (and shut the fuck up about breastfeeding)’ might solve this problem.

Mynaddmawr · 03/03/2024 14:34

Honestly, I'm a very easy going person and put a lot of value in maintaining good family relationships. But I would never speak to this crazy bitch again!

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 03/03/2024 14:35

I am actually feeling irritated that OP has been taking all the comments from MIL and not saying anything back.
Similarly irritated by the husband not doing anything about it off his own back.

fruity81 · 03/03/2024 14:36

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 03/03/2024 14:35

I am actually feeling irritated that OP has been taking all the comments from MIL and not saying anything back.
Similarly irritated by the husband not doing anything about it off his own back.

yes. There’s an absence of spines.

MelCakey · 03/03/2024 14:41

Your MIL is a Bully, pure n simple. How dare she speak to you like this. Tell her to stay out of your house and your lives until she can treat you with the respect you deserve. (I suspect she is projecting her own insecurities onto you which is grossly unfair n unwarranted.)
Something's gotta give in this situation and you AND hubby must tell her it has to Stop right now. She is poisoning your lives. She's a Vile woman.

RedMark · 03/03/2024 14:48

She's got a screw loose. Please stay away from her

AnnBerlin24 · 03/03/2024 14:48

There's a power struggle going on here. Your MIL sounds like a bit of a know it all who likes to think she is the Queen of her castle. I'm guessing probably not achieved much outside of the domestic sphere, ( not making a dig here against SAHM) whereas you mention your mother is a medical professional and will be very knowledgeable. I wonder if child rearing is your MIL's self proclaimed domain and she feels her nose has been put out of joint.

You are a mother now and you are going to have to advocate for yourself and your child from now on. Speak up for yourself even if it feels scary.

You mentioned that your DH has children from a previous relationship, do you know how your MIL treated your DH's ex?

BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 03/03/2024 14:49

Oh love, knock this on the head ASAP - my ExH was also a complete invertebrate when it came to his mother and her opinions, it's one of the reasons I left the spineless twat!

You're doing just fine. Baby is fed, end of story.

DinnaeFashYersel · 03/03/2024 14:54

I got stuck at

re-watched the conversation on our indoor security camera

That is so creepy and weird

Thriving30 · 03/03/2024 14:55

Wow she really does seem obsessed. I'm also with the people who responded saying they'd cut her off. Honestly if she can't be respectful and keep her views to herself then she can get lost in my eyes. Your DH needs to make it clear that a line has been crossed.

NannyGythaOgg · 03/03/2024 14:57

"I think like a lot of people have said, this has come from her having her babies in the 70’s/80’s where formula was praised as the gold standard to feed babies. Breastfeeding was seen as weird. Her failure to BF, she’s likely projecting onto me."
Breast feeding was not considered weird in the 70s. I did obstetric training in the mid 70s and we encouraged breast feeding where possible and I breast fed my own 2 in the late 70s.

Greydogs123 · 03/03/2024 14:57

I would tell her that if she mentions anything about how you are feeding your baby while she is in your home she will have to leave. If you are anywhere else then you leave with the baby. She is being so out of order and behaving disgustingly. Your Dh needs to be told very firmly to support you or you will send him to stay with his mother until he has decided who is more important - his wife and child or his horrible, bullying mother.

Basilandmandarin · 03/03/2024 15:03

I’d personally tell her to fuck off and never see or speak to her again.

If DH doesn’t agree with you then I’d tell him to fuck off too.

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/03/2024 15:03

RedMark · 03/03/2024 14:48

She's got a screw loose. Please stay away from her

This sums it up.

The woman is batshit!

"breastfeeding isn't good for babies" - our species would have died ut millennia ago.

"BF baby poo isn’t supposed to smell" - I wish someone had told my two that - they honked!

"bottle fed babied grow better" - they do tend to put weight on more quickly but this is because it's not such hard work to suck from a bottle as it is from the breast, so they often stay awake feeding longer and consume more calories - which they tend to run off once they are on their feet.

You are feeding your baby in the way that suits you - and you are fortunate to be able to. Many women would love to breastfeed, but can't. Breast and bottle both provide an excellent diet - but you are enjoying feeding your baby, and your baby is meeting appropriate milestones.

Tell this awful woman to mind her own business, or not to visit at all. You are doing what is right for you and the only problems you are likely to have are the ones caused by MIL-related stress.

kcchiefette · 03/03/2024 15:04

Your MIL is a bully. I know. My ex MIL was basically the same.

I begged my ex-H to confront her, to handle it and he never did. It was part of the reason we eventually broke up.

Unfortunately, women like this dont back down until put in their place.

  1. Lock your door to stop any unarranged visits. If she shows up, you dont answer the door.
  1. In events where you do see her and she attempts to mock you, call her out on it. Ask her directly in front of others why she is insistent on being a bully.
  1. You tell your DH to get on side with you, or he can move back in with his dear mother.
  1. Keep contact minimal. Only see her at specific family events. Dont respond to snarky texts etc.
Needtofixmyageingskin · 03/03/2024 15:11

DinnaeFashYersel · 03/03/2024 14:54

I got stuck at

re-watched the conversation on our indoor security camera

That is so creepy and weird

Odd that this is the bit you got stuck at and not how awful MIL is being

pensione · 03/03/2024 15:12

Needtofixmyageingskin · 03/03/2024 15:11

Odd that this is the bit you got stuck at and not how awful MIL is being

Probably a MIL.

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