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Just told DH I will divorce him over a fucking wedding

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KeenHiker · 29/02/2024 13:55

This is my first post. I think my head’s going to explode.
BiL has shown no interest whatsoever in my daughters, not my eldest who isn’t my husband’s or his actual niece!
We first met SiL at a baptism of cousin’s. She brought personalised Easter eggs for cousins’ kids and my youngest. I immediately went over and said my eldest would be jealous in a jokey way but she had no idea that my eldest even existed!
Three years on neither kids have been distinguished by them at all.
Husband is close to his brother.
One Sunday last month we are at in-laws’ and eldest said that SiL had taken youngest out in rain and told eldest to give them a minute. When I went out to see what was happening she had just asked youngest to be a flower girl. MiL knew and everyone was happy. 10 year old was really struggling and burst into tears in car.
Sister-in-Law has a sister with three stepkids. Two lads virtually same age as her, both have partners and one has baby, as well as fourteen year old who lives with them. Her own daughter will be other flower girl.
invitations come but my eldest isn’t invited. DH is best man, he assumes she is invited but just not on invitation. Clarifies! No! It would mean 5 others plus baby would have to be invited.
I went mad and said none of us are going or I am off. All he could do was slag my ex off and this was the thanks he got for stepping up.
He has stepped up. You wouldn’t know she wasn’t his but this is too much. If eldest is invited I could see how they would have to invite the 14 year old step niece but not the two eldest step nephews who are independent.
I did ring MiL but she’s not getting involved. I am fucking fuming.

OP posts:
2chocolateoranges · 29/02/2024 19:57

I’d be unhappy that dh wouldn’t stand up for his step child. I just don’t or understand why some people are willing to bow down when children in the family are being treated differently. Disgusting behaviour.

you either all go or dh goes himself.

Delphinium20 · 29/02/2024 19:58

In cases like this it should be no children at all or ALL the family children. I feel as bad for the 14-year-old SD as I do for your 10-year old. I mean that little girl doesn't even have her mom alive.

SiL and BiL are both being grade-A assholes.

WittyMotherhoodRelatedPun · 29/02/2024 19:59

MississippiAF · 29/02/2024 19:48

Who gives a fuck what bridezilla wants, there are children to be considered, she wont die if she doesn't have flower girls.

This is the kind of insanity you end up with in blended situations. People frothing that the feelings of the stepchildren matter more than anything else at all.

Well I think they do, quite frankly. As adults we are responsible for ensuring that children grow up to feel loved and wanted, to have healthy self-esteem. Not that they feel somehow “ less than”, whether due to race, sex, religion, intelligence level, disability, or anything else they have no control over.

And what sort of warped adult excludes one child from a family anyway? The child’s genes don’t matter in the slightest. She’s still a daughter of that family. The adults need to get a grip.

(I am neither a stepmother nor a stepchild, just someone who tries to treat children with love and respect.)

Didimum · 29/02/2024 19:59

BackITD · 29/02/2024 18:51

Who gives a fuck what bridezilla wants, there are children to be considered, she wont die if she doesn't have flower girls.

Er... the bride gives a fuck what she wants. It's her wedding and she can do what she likes. She doesn't have to have a child that is nothing to do with her at all involved in her wedding if she doesn't want to - because it's her wedding. It's her day and she can damn well do what she likes. Why should she be held to ransom because a little girl is a bit upset and having a sulk? She'll get over it.

The bride had no control over her brother's decision to have a relationship with someone who already had a child. She's under no obligation to be interested in or care about the step child - any more than she is actually in respect of her biological nieces or nephews.

This is madness suggesting that the whims and upset of a girl who has no direct connection to the bride should dictate who gets to be a flower girl at her wedding. If OP & the brother got divorced, the SIL would probably never see the step daughter again. Suggesting this is a basis to never speak to the inlaw family again is a huge overreaction. This really won't matter to this girl probably in 12 months let alone 10 years.

Good grief, you sound awful. This is 10yr old girl who is being deliberately excluded from her family unit. Hope you don’t have children.

Coyoacan · 29/02/2024 20:00

I'm seeing an attitude to step- children that is somewhat akin to how adopted children used to be treated

Thepossibility · 29/02/2024 20:00

I would take the opportunity to do something really special with your 10yo and frame it as a mum and daughter day and your youngest is having a dad and daughter day.
I wouldn't be bringing tension and fighting into my home over someone else's shitty decision. You say he has otherwise stepped up, so I would let it go. It's not his event to be making demands.

thebestinterest · 29/02/2024 20:00

I’m with you Op. They are planning to invite one of your children but not the other? What the actual fuck? What’s their beef with an innocent creation? I mean, your eldest is a child and it sounds like she’s always been treated as second class. You. Yay look out and step up for her. Your DH deserves to be binned. What a fucking pushover. Also, if DH is so close to his brother, why is the relationship with your eldest like this? He’s the adult… he’s supposed to help guide these relationships. Your poor daughter 😞

thebestinterest · 29/02/2024 20:02

Scaffoldingisugly · 29/02/2024 14:02

Surely dh goes and you and dc have a day out? Dh can pack his stuff after he gets back.
Or dh can tell them all to fuck off.

This. My DH would be packing his shit upon return from this wedding. No doubt about that! Fucking pushover.

wordler · 29/02/2024 20:02

From the response being of they invited OPs daughter they’d have to include another 5 (Bride’s stepchildren and 2 partners) I wonder if they didn’t have room or want to include the two older stepsons and then to ‘make it fair’ didn’t invite all the ‘steps’.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 29/02/2024 20:03

The issue isn't the elder daughter not being invited. She's being treated exactly the same as every other older child in the family.

The issue is OP has another child little enough to be in the bridal party. Not an invited guest.

If my sister was matron of honour, I don't get to kick off because I'm not invited to the wedding. Completely different things.

OP needs to explain to her daughter that youngest hasn't been invited. No children are invited. Bride is having two little flower girls. And this is different to guests. If OP had another older daughter and son, they wouldn't be going either. Adults are invited. And two flower girls are in the bridal party. It's an unfortunate set up that makes it look like one person in 4 has been excluded when the truth is, two are in the bridal party, and only one of the other two is an adult and therefore invited.

What's the alternative? Refuse the youngest to be a flower girl? So OP and DH and no children go? Insist eldest must be invited, and force the bride to invite 6 other children she can't afford to pay for as guests?

AllstarFacilier · 29/02/2024 20:04

I wouldn’t go if I were you, however I’d let DD2 go. He can spend his day as best man looking after her too.

Terfarina · 29/02/2024 20:05

boozeclues · 29/02/2024 19:44

She will be treated differently though, she isn’t part of the wider family of the OPs DH, she presumably has a whole other family of her own away from her half sibling too.

Why the OP can’t say “your half sister is going to HER aunties wedding”, then reach out to her other child’s biological family / dad and ask for them to babysit, take her out for the day is beyond me.

should her daughters bio family include her half sister in their own family events to not exclude the other sister, no absolutely not.

OP where is your daughters bio family, it sounds like the issue is with them as they aren’t as involved with her as her step family is with their niece

a lot of us don't differentiate between adopted / step / half - you are children of the family and that is enough.

unless the wider family have no hearts

wordler · 29/02/2024 20:07

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 29/02/2024 20:03

The issue isn't the elder daughter not being invited. She's being treated exactly the same as every other older child in the family.

The issue is OP has another child little enough to be in the bridal party. Not an invited guest.

If my sister was matron of honour, I don't get to kick off because I'm not invited to the wedding. Completely different things.

OP needs to explain to her daughter that youngest hasn't been invited. No children are invited. Bride is having two little flower girls. And this is different to guests. If OP had another older daughter and son, they wouldn't be going either. Adults are invited. And two flower girls are in the bridal party. It's an unfortunate set up that makes it look like one person in 4 has been excluded when the truth is, two are in the bridal party, and only one of the other two is an adult and therefore invited.

What's the alternative? Refuse the youngest to be a flower girl? So OP and DH and no children go? Insist eldest must be invited, and force the bride to invite 6 other children she can't afford to pay for as guests?

But adults aren’t invited - two of the four stepchildren that have’t been invited are grown men in their 30s.

I don’t understand why no one else is getting this. They aren’t excluding children they are excluding non blood relative step nieces and step nephews.

I mean they are being fair across the board in that respect - but probably easier for the adult stepchildren to take than the two young girls.

Glasgowqueen · 29/02/2024 20:07

He sounds abusive.

Newchapterbeckons · 29/02/2024 20:07

Total dealbreaker. We would not be going, any of us. Shocking.

Coyoacan · 29/02/2024 20:08

Glenthebattleostrich · 29/02/2024 19:08

"Er... the bride gives a fuck what she wants. It's her wedding and she can do what she likes. She doesn't have to have a child that is nothing to do with her at all involved in her wedding if she doesn't want to"

But the bride is marrying into the family so is not a blood relative and technically has nothing to do with either child other than choosing to favor one in a family over the other.

But she wants two cute little flower girls for her pictures

Newchapterbeckons · 29/02/2024 20:08

Thepossibility · 29/02/2024 20:00

I would take the opportunity to do something really special with your 10yo and frame it as a mum and daughter day and your youngest is having a dad and daughter day.
I wouldn't be bringing tension and fighting into my home over someone else's shitty decision. You say he has otherwise stepped up, so I would let it go. It's not his event to be making demands.

Very weak divided response.

caringcarer · 29/02/2024 20:09

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 29/02/2024 19:39

But sisters aren't being separated. No older children are invited as guests. Two tiny children have been asked to be flower girls in the bridal party.

One of the flower girls happens to have an older sister. This doesn't change that no older children (7 in total) are invited. It would be very different if any of those were going, because then there would be a like for like exclusion.

Don't get me wrong, I'd think it was a choice that is guaranteed to ruffle feathers. But, it's not choosing one daughter over another. Members of the bridal party aren't guests/invitees. No older children have been invited. You have to ignore the fact they are sisters because that's got nothing to do with the reason one's potentially going and one isn't.

One sister is invited and asked to play a starring role in the ceremony. But Cinderella wasn't invited to the ball. Of course the two sisters are being separated. Do you think the elder sister won't hold it against her younger sister? The elder sister has already been crying. Even the way the bride asked the elder sister to go inside so she could speak to the younger sister alone is splitting them up. I'd take the elder DD to Euro Disney and if she wanted I'd buy her a special Princessy dress to wear too. I'd go for a week and let the spiteful bride deal with the flower girl alone because I wouldn't be party to any of it.

Bournetilly · 29/02/2024 20:09

To not invite your eldest is awful and I can’t believe they aren’t inviting the 14 year old step daughter who lives with her sister. They wouldn’t need to invite the older 2 step children, they are clearly old enough to understand.

I would stand by saying that you and both DC will not be attending the wedding (DH can do as he likes but this is obviously going to put a strain on the relationship). How old is your youngest daughter?

Newchapterbeckons · 29/02/2024 20:10

Dh has now shown you who he is, in more ways than one. This is the hill to die on.

Longma · 29/02/2024 20:12

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KeenHiker · 29/02/2024 20:12

Youngest will be five at the time of wedding.

I have a flat which is rented out but rent just covers the mortgage and service charge.

DH has a house without mortgage and we share a mortgaged house. Youngest will inherit from DH and both daughters will inherit from me.

Eldest’s dad does not see her, his father died during the pandemic not of Covid though. Nobody told us for a year. Eldest’s gran can’t stop crying on the odd time she has seen her so I had to stop the visits.

I imagine that BiL initially told SiL only about his bio niece.

MiL and FiL are always nice to eldest but save for youngest, when I found this out I asked how much as I wanted to match it myself for eldest but they refused to tell me.

DH doesn’t see why I am upset about a wedding. He just doesn’t see why I am upset and what a wedding signifies. He just seems to accept that eldest isn’t related to his brother. He says he would give her his heart if she needed one but just can’t see the fuss that I am making.

He is shocked she isn’t invited though.

I don’t know how I can stop him taking youngest. He is adamant.

OP posts:
Codlingmoths · 29/02/2024 20:13

Dhs hands are not tied. He can’t make them invite your older dd but nor can they make him bring your younger dd, she does not have to go. I think I would understand if he went although I don’t know if our marriage would ever be the same, but my daughters and I would not go.

GrumpyPanda · 29/02/2024 20:13

Screwballs · 29/02/2024 16:15

Yes, that'll really show the youngest just how unreasonable it is that she has been asked to be a bridesmaid.

Do you all think these ideas are clever? Its embarrassing.

I dont agree with the eldest being left out, but lets think beyond spite towards the youngest.

You're misreading the PP who referred to DDs not DD. So rather than splitting up the family over this wedding, take both kids to Disneyland instead. Personally I think it's genius and I can't stand Disney. Neatly solves the problem of younger DD being excited about the wedding - she'll be offered something equally good if not better, and without the potential of splitting the family.

Yes OP says her DH is currently putting his foot down about the younger child's participation. But surely this can be handled by a calm conversation at a later stage pointing out the inappropriateness of an invite to a child without first clearing this with both the actual parents?

Much more reasonable all around if he attends on his own.

TunnocksOrDeath · 29/02/2024 20:14

Well it's a huge breach of etiquette to invite one pre-adolescent child to a family event, and not another one who lives in the same house as them, but that's the bride & groom just displaying a total lack of good manners and sensitivity. If they've dug their heels in about it though, there's not much to be gained from turning it into Custer's last stand. Better to wish them well (i.e. lie) and explain that DD1 will need looking after if she's not invited so you find it impossible to attend. They will reap what they sow: it will look pretty bad for them when the 'best man' gives the usual speech about "how nice it is to see everyone here today" if his own spouse is conspicuous by her absence.

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