Tire Extinguishers can fuck right off

[tireextinguishers]

Woke up to deflated tires because I drive an SUV.

Jealous, petty wankers.

Anyone got got this morning?

OK, so it's not your SUV ffs 🙄

It is my SUV. It’s a personal vehicle that is used for on-call purposes. I had the option of having a works vehicle provided or using my own. I also have access to the work fleet during my core working hours.

Driving an SUV in urban areas is antisocial behaviour.

No, people in your situation are those that these vehicles should be aimed at. People who live and or work rurally, also people such as tradesman who need to transport materials can all reasonably drive trucks, vans, SUVs as they are required.

People must realise that these sentences cannot both be true? Farmers must be allowed to drive in an urban area without a sticker (or pulling over) to explain why they should be allowed to drive such a vehicle?

Usernother - cargo bikes are also good for transporting kids

There are many other things which France does which we should adopt before punitive taxation to curtail personal freedoms.

Like move to a partially private funded healthcare system.

And get rid of the ridiculous, flat rate, derisory unemployment benefit we have in the UK in favour of a system like the French whereby high earners can get over £5k per month.

Braksonbross
Are your work fleet SUVs? And what emergencies, specifically, are you responding to? Mountain rescue? Coastguard? 🤔

AcridandStanLee
Approximately how many farmers (as opposed to people living on farms. Not the same thing at all) do you think there are who a) only possess one vehicle; b) regularly need to drive into the centre of large urban areas as part of their job? 🤔

I swapped my small hatchback for a crossover SUV and now pay no road tax and get twice as many miles to the gallon. Should I have kept my older, 'worse for the environment' hatchback so my car looked the part?

No one confuses working farm vehicles with urban SUVs. Cream leather seats and gleaming white paintwork don't exactly scream 'farmer at work'.

Work fleet is mixed. BMW X5, BMW 335 estate, Skoda Octavia estate and some more specialist vehicles for off road or carrying specialist equipment. I was offered a Subaru Forrester as my works vehicle but I chose to use my own instead as I didn’t want another car hanging around. I’m on the silver command rota for a large NHS trust and I’m the senior clinician who has training in complex extrication so I often get called out to work alongside mountain rescue and the fire service. My personal vehicle is a Land Rover Discovery which gets me everywhere I need to go safely.

I'm old. They aren't my children. I travel more miles than I could cycle to do pick ups and drop offs. You crack on with your cargo bike. I'm sticking with the heated seats in SUV.

As part of their job or part of their social life.

I'm actually from the country. Which is close to a town - they usually are. A lot of farmers, land owners, people who just live in rural areas etc will go to the town. Not all of them have several vehicles. Those who do may not wish to change over for that particular journey. They are all able and allowed to drive their massive SUVs into town without explaining to you lot. Some of them have cream leather (of varying shades at times).

Some of them just have a mokka that isn't even 4wd but are pushed into the antisocial category because people read SUV and think of nothing else.

It's nobody's business but the drivers. You can't just push hate and negativity because they do one thing you don't like, again because you don't have an understanding of their situation or the situation of SUVs within the UK car market.

Made up statistics about killing children are not even relevant.

Is it actually relevent to the discussion though ? Some people have legimate need for SUVs, but the vast majority don't.

It surprises me that people are allowed to use personal vehicles to travel well in excess of the speed limit, especially since if there was a crash there would probably be a massive investigation as to whether the vehicle was maintained correctly to travel at those speeds and was correctly equipped.

I'm way too scared of other road users, I would never take my kids in one of these

The blue light officer policy is quite strict and my vehicle requires regular inspection in the same way the fleet vehicles do. It also has a minimum spec of emergency lighting. I chose to have more than the minimum spec as I feel any unmarked vehicle should be lit up like a Christmas tree to make it as visible as possible. As with all blue light driving, the driver is responsible for driving within the capabilities of the vehicle, their own skill level and the external conditions. If I’m in work, I often use one of the fleet vehicles as they have more kit on board and also are better handling on the road if the scene is accessible.

They’re quite popular around here but everyone I know that has one also has a fancy SUV like a Range Rover or a Cayenne 😬

Usernother, oh I don't have a cargo bike, I just see lots of them transporting kids around my way, more suitable for more urban areas I imagine

AcridandStanLee

You're actually from the country? Actually? From the country? Wow, that's pretty special 😱

Me too 😊

(And I paraphrase the long post that I made earlier about Living in the Actual Country, which is that big shiny SUVs are a useless, pointless pest around here).

AcridandStanLee

You're actually from the country? Actually? From the country? Wow, that's pretty special 😱

Me too 😊

(And I paraphrase the long post that I made earlier about Living in the Actual Country, which is that big shiny SUVs are a useless, pointless pest around here).

Don't get it. Grew up on a farm, never had any money so always drove old bangers not 4x4s. The single track lanes don't work in SUV either, you've got to get right in the hedge.

Still reassuring to know that everyone driving an SUV in my current urban home is probably either an emergency responder, a farmer on a day trip or has a bad back. Just so happens huge swathes of the population fall into this category, who'd have thought. I'll remember that next time they're driving at me and the kids on the pavement

And my husband is a farmer. He has two tractors and two vans. No SUV

Who's been driving at you on the pavement? Should probably report those individual people whose behaviour cannot be extrapolated to the entire SUV driving population

Living rurally, I've never so much as glanced sideways at an SUV, therefore no-one living rurally has a need for one!

Or, we all have different needs, and "the country" differs depending on where you are...