What is she up to?

[DontVisitCabotCove]

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

Well it's data that they have on file under the OP's name, so I would argue it's OP's data.
You have a right that any data held about you is correct, OP world be perfectly within her rights to ask for details of what data they hold and all for corrections to be made.... however, as we know she doesn't actually want to sell so could ask for all data to be removed from their systems instead. However, I'd put money in the EA not sharing it because of... you know... GDPR (without understanding what that actually means).

Thanks again everyone for your well wishes, it’s really appreciated!

Just to clear up a few points:

• Jane is gone and the locks have been changed, I haven’t seen her since the morning she asked for the letter (which was before I saw the footage) as DB ensured she didn’t return to the house. He’s managed to move all of the kids belongings to their dad’s and half of hers to goodness knows where, the rest of hers should be out today
• I’ve spoken to my solicitor who is getting the ball rolling on several things so I’ll be as protected as I possibly can be
• The agent said “Right I have everything I need for the valuation so I’ll email sometime this afternoon when I’m back in the office” so it was my assumption that he was saying he’d email her as it was her he was talking to and I had no idea what was going on
• With regard to their house purchase, my DB owned a property prior to meeting Jane which he was renting out while he was living in work provided accommodation which Jane ended up moving into with him. My DB was selling his house in order to buy the new house and the chain was due to complete in November so they gave notice on his work accommodation. Unfortunately there was a delay further up the chain but his buyers threatened to pull out so instead of collapsing the whole chain he went ahead with selling his house and I offered for them to move in with me to plug the gap between leaving his work accommodation and buying the new place so as to save them money on rent. Unfortunately the chain ended up collapsing anyway once they were here with me. The money DB received from his house sale is in his bank account and the money Jane was able to save towards the house is in hers, the money was never actually pooled so they’ve both walked away with their own money. Fortunately DB can afford to buy on his own but unfortunately for Jane she can’t

• The agent said “Right I have everything I need for the valuation so I’ll email sometime this afternoon when I’m back in the office” so it was my assumption that he was saying he’d email her as it was her he was talking to and I had no idea what was going on

Well yes-especially if the email address she gave was hers but she was pretending it was yours!

Fortunately DB can afford to buy on his own but unfortunately for Jane she can’t

This must be the root of all this.

@DontVisitCabotCove Thanks for keeping us all updated. I'm glad you're rid of her and protecting yourself.

It's disappointing the police weren't bothered - yes her behaviour was nipped in the bud, but she clearly had some kind of criminal intent and IMO is potentially a dangerous woman.

It sounds like you and your brother have had a lucky escape OP.

Well done for handling it so well.

Out of interest, do you have any paperwork with a crime reference number from your police report? I wonder if you took that with your ID to the estate agents, they would divulge the information on email address and telephone number.

I’m wondering if you can find the doorbell footage of him arriving, she says she didn’t know anything about it but let him in because she assumed you’d organised it, I think her response when he comes to the door will make it clear whether or not she was already expecting him.

I think you don't want the EA emailing 'you' information as he has the email address Jane set up, not yours. She might have set up a Google or yahoo address using your name, and you might be using Hotmail or whatever.

I don't think I would show an estate agent around a house I was staying in, if no one had told me about it beforehand.

No-one would, surely!

Now I am sorry to ask- but it is bugging me. Why should we not visit Cabot Cove (perhaps when this mess is over, you could tell us).

I'd be very sceptical of letting an unknown man into any house I was in, whoever he claimed to be and however well he knew the owner. If he claimed to be the police I'd want to see a badge, So I find it odd that Jane let him in if she wasnt fully aware he was coming.

@fleurneige It’s where Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote) lives and people just keep getting murdered around her..

As I understand it Jane was the one who booked it.

Personally, I would have texted OP to check but…

If an EA with ID arrived and said they had an appointment and Cabot Cove had called them to say she had a hospital appointment so couldn’t be there but a family member would let them in, I can see that some people might go along with it rather than bother Cabot Cave at hospital. One might assume that the EA was genuine because they knew about the hospital appointment and that Cabot Cave had just forgotten to tell you with everything going on.

Not that I believe Jane’s story but it isn’t that implausible.If she hadn’t asked for the bizarre letter as well, I could believe her story.

I made a reference to the mysteries of Cabot Cove in a post last night and had my post reported and removed. Cabot Cove is/ was the setting for the TV mystery series Murder, She Wrote starring the late Angela Lasnbury as Jessica Fletcher. Like Midsomer and Morse's Oxford, almost everyone in the area is either murdered or accused of murder.

Oh yes, of course, I remember now.

And apologies for asking.

Get better soon OP and hope you get to the bottom of this weird mistery soon, and without too much hassle.

Why have it removed?

MSW is one of my comfort TV shows, so I knew immediately. Funny what you think everyone knows, just because you do.
Maybe@DontVisitCabotCove needs to call in Jessica to solve the mystery? But then she'd probably end up being arrested for murder, as all Jessica's friends do 😆😆

Speak to the estate agent and tell them you own the house and thry were asked to value it without your knowledge etc and as tge owner you'd like to know what they were asked to do and why.

They should take action to withdraw the valuation etc directly with her, so she is under no illusion that what she did was outrageous.

Tell her to leave that she's not welcome in your home.

Yoyr brother can stay with you whilst he finds hus own home. The value of your house is nothing to do with her or tgeir relationship.

What a CF.

Also, cancel the cheque.

Reported and removed?!

Should have caught up on things before posting and now can't remove my post...

@DontVisitCabotCove well done for acting so fast, Jane sounds delightful. It simple to get her as the estate agent knows what email address she's made up for you and from that MS, Google etc will be able to confirm and evidence when and where it was accessed etc. This will then point to the lively Jane. What a bear faced liar she is.

Glad your DB has his money from the sale of his house. Jane is obviously going to try to sting him for upkeep now they've split up but she'll be hard pressed to do that or access his money from any inheritance.

Sending you a hug xxx

But when Jessica's friends are accused of murder we know they're innocent. I can only think of one episode where someone of her acquaintance was guilty and she was the wife of the man originally accused I think.

I think @anyolddinosaur is trying to disprove Jane’s story - that she was unaware of the estate agent appointment. Eg. If she really was unaware, wouldn’t she have thought it odd she hadn’t been told by OP? But I guess if she’s claiming she believed OP just forgot it’s difficult to argue with. She’s clearly thought this out very carefully.

Except for the RING doorbell!

I must admit with the talk of inheritance I was worried she was planning a ‘fall’… and hoped to envegel her way back in with DP to cash in, wrongly assuming he gets the house.

Another scenario that could possibly make sense is if her ex has the same name as DB and she wanted OP to write ‘David is currently living at this address’ and hoped to scam child support, but he could challenge that surely with his own proof of address. Unless she’s claiming he’s moved in with OP! Or in her warped mind believes DB owes her child support bc they were in a relationship??🤷🏼‍♀️ (I think I’m possibly beginning to sound a little like JB Fletcher myself now, but I have a naturally suspicious mind 👀lol!)

She sounds very calculating and a wee bit scary to me in any event.

It’s quite possible she had all kinds of schemes that weren’t altogether plausible and has acted out of desperation. Thank GOODNESS OP saw that footage!

On the case(s) highlighted/investigated on R4 the identity was verified by fraudulent application for a driving licence which had (supposedly) been stolen. New driving licence issued in record time (4 days?) prompting speculation of involvement of a backhanded to an employee of DVLA.

It happens. I started a thread last year and one of the replies to it got deleted. 🤷🏻‍♀️ No idea why! It was directed at me and I didn't find it offensive nor did I report it, so I've no idea who did or why it was taken down.