What is she up to?

[DontVisitCabotCove]

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

Tell me you've not read the full thread, without telling me you've not read the full thread...

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can I play in not read the whole thread bingo?

Register with the land registry
Ploy to maximise child maintenance
Ploy to maximise split of assets in divorce
Tell her to leave

Can you tell me where she says she threw her out. Maybe I missed it . All I saw was she as leaving n 10 days

Who TF in their right mind would settle down to read a 29-page mumsnet thread before commenting 😁

Although the OP’s posts do cover it in about a page

“I’ve spoken to my DB, sent him the footage and he’s going to deal with her so she won’t be coming back; the kids are currently with their dad anyway so all good on that front. DB will pack up their stuff and move it out and I’ll get the locks changed tomorrow too.”

DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 19:34 content as quoted above by @YetMoreNewBeginnings

This is in the OP (I think) – Jane asked OP for a letter saying the brother lives there and wasn’t happy when OP suggested instead a letter saying they’d both been staying there temporarily

I think Jane was just explaining her (supposed) thought process in letting them in and not mentioning it to OP

The brother should go too. You don't know his role in this and he brought her into your house.

Even though I have a relatively uncommon surname and first name, there is someone who lives a few miles from me who has the same names and middle initial.

I found out because they once pulled her medical records instead of mine when I attended a hospital appointment. Her date of birth is only a few years after mine, so we're similar ages, too.

Wow what unnecessary stress on top of a horrible health diagnosis. Jane sounds like a nasty piece of work.

It doesn’t make sense that the EA thought Jane was just a friend letting him in…In the OP’s first post she states, “Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings “

Why would the agent send an email with the valuation to Jane ? Or discuss viewings with her ? Especially if the RE was under the impression she was a house guest…

I'm pretty sure that you can request all the info that the EA have about you via an information request. They may redact names of others but any data I.E emails/call logs that contain your name have to be provided to you by law if you ask for them.

It’s all very coincidental that she’s asked your for a letter that her Brother is living there shortly before a valuation is done.

Also let’s say there is some random scammer that Jane doesn’t know about, his lucky is if that Jane never filled you in & the real estate agent came over when you were out but someone else was home. Also
lucky for the scammer Jane didn’t tell you. Seems all a very happy coincidence for a random scammer.

Also a happy coincidence the the brother was out.

if they were going to buy a house surely they were living together wne has a deposit saver.x

Ugh. Just call her out in it. Mn favourite phrase "did you mean to be so rude?".

She probably won't like the public admonishment, but she probably won't stop until she's called out on it. See what happens after that.

Sorry OP, I did not realise you had such serious health issues. Being new to Mumsnet I have now learnt how to look at posts without wading through pages of comments. I do wonder what your DB ex was hoping to achieve, very strange behaviour on her part. The important thing is she is gone and you have protected yourself.

Read the OPs posts again.

If I was DB I would be putting checks on all my credit cards etc too- imagine having been in a relationship with someone who is so vile as to do this to his sister at any time, let alone now. He must feel sick.

i wonder (and I don’t know for sure before I get shot down), is she trying to push that her brother lives in a £?k house so doesn’t need as much as her when they split the proceeds of their house sale in their divorce? ...

tell your brother and get him to get a solicitor involved (which should happen if you have assets / and or kids).

I have a feeling she is planning something esp if things are not good between them.

There's no house for them to sell and no divorce.
They aren't married.

What's the point? The EA knows that the OP (the householder) didn't ask for a valuation, they know the email address and phone number they've been given isn't hers, they know she's not selling, OP has set up an alert with the Land Registry, the police have said no crime has occurred and Jane's game, whatever it was, has been rumbled and she's gone.

Goodness that's quite scary she's set all that up 🙀

Another possible explanation for this is that the OP has paraphrased either in the hearing or the retelling here

e.g. he said: ‘I’ll pop over an email” and the OP, who doesn’t know this man, takes it in as “I’ll pop you over an email”. Followed by general closing comments about getting viewings set up, which he probably just says to everyone.

But if the above isn’t the case, good point for OP to consider!

I don't like the sound of that. She may be trying to suggest that if he's living with you he's a dependent and has some claim on the house that she can include in a divorce settlement.
Make sure you get all the post that comes to the house before she does, too, so she can't pretend to be you and sell it. And alert the Land Registry, and all local house agents.
I'd be tempted to get legal advice.
Edit, sorry, should have read the rest of the thread first.

I think the only other possible reason might be to catch Jane out more thoroughly and decisively – by sending an email or calling the number – however if Jane knows the gig is up it might be too late to bother with now

Although could still be worth a try – nothing to lose by sending an email from an address to sound like the EA, or trying the number anonymously.

And I’d still want to know either way for completeness. You never know when x or y bit of info might turn out to be useful