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What is she up to?

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DontVisitCabotCove · 25/02/2024 16:18

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

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BusyMummy001 · 26/02/2024 18:54

@DontVisitCabotCove so pleased that the EA came to see you and that you are fairly sure you are safe. However, if Jane did not mention the visit of the EA when you returned from the hospital (nor tried to contact you to confirm the visit), then she is lying.

Do you have the Ring doorbell footage from the EA’s arrival? If she greeted him as if expecting him, then (again, because it shows she is lying) I still think you should meet with the police: as she clearly intended to commit fraud. They will be able to trace the IP addresses of the emails purporting to be you, also.

Sorry you are now feeling frazzled, but hopefully DB can help look through Ring footage to ascertain the start of the meeting.

GasPanic · 26/02/2024 18:54

Certainly suggests some level of deviousness and planning. Unless of course she is willing to provide a reasonable explanation for all this then it is only to be expected that people will assume the worst.

Does she have any previous form for this sort of behaviour.

whiteorchids44 · 26/02/2024 18:56

So sorry to hear you are going through this OP. I'd file a report to the police about potential fraud and possible identity theft. I would have them ask the estate agent forward the email address provided to the police if they can't give it to you. I would also put an alert on your credit cards as well. If Jane has created an email address with your name, how do you know she doesn't intend to open credit cards or take out loans in your name? Do you have Ring or CCTV to see if Jane stops by to check your mail from time to time? I wonder about her intent. For someone to create an email account with your name and orchestrate this with an estate agent, it all just sounds really dodgy.

dapsnotplimsolls · 26/02/2024 18:56

At least your brother is getting the hell away from her.

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saradika · 26/02/2024 18:59

Could you do a subject access request for the email address and number? Not sure if it makes a difference that they know it wasn't you who contacted them...

Slanabhaile · 26/02/2024 19:00

Oh wow!! Jane certainly is some piece of work 😠
Ok let's say an email address can be really faked, but what phone number were they using? Definitely update the police with this information. Someone (Jane!) put a serious amount of effort into this scam. But what it does highlight to me is how easy it is to pull this off, thank god it went no further.

DuckEggBlueToo · 26/02/2024 19:01

Get her out now as in this evening. Nothing good will come of this.

Twentyfirstcenturymumma · 26/02/2024 19:01

Feel for you in this weird and troubling situation op

WearyAuldWumman · 26/02/2024 19:03

iwafs · 26/02/2024 18:46

What a horrible shady character Jane is.

She's a gaslighting little [insert nasty word].

Nicole1111 · 26/02/2024 19:04

Definitely update the police. And in the words of that hilarious come dine with me character “Dear lord. What a sad little life Jane”. At least your brother has been saved from her. I hope you’re ok after all this unnecessary stress.

SerafinasGoose · 26/02/2024 19:06

This whole action was very carefully calculated, fully thought through and incredibly devious, so far as to provide an explanation which would allow for plausible deniability in the event that she was (fortunately) rumbled. She's used your condition against you to the extent that she's even considered how to exploit the brain fog, and thus get herself off the hook legally even if you and your brother happened not to believe her. Impersonating you would also have been very incriminating; unsurprisingly she's taken good care not to do this and worked around this particular hurdle admirably.

My, but she's a clever one. If it turned out she was a seasoned con-woman it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

So very pleased to read that you've clipped her wings at the first hurdle. What an utter lowlife.

WiddlinDiddlin · 26/02/2024 19:06

Wow, Jane has more front than Blackpool... jeeeeeez.

Mm does the Ring camera not show the EA arrival... I'd ask Jane who the hell else could have made the appointment and given all your personal info about health and hospital etc if not her... because if its NOT her then ... thats downright scary, someone must be stealing your ID. You'd better involve the police and the police would obviously need to talk to Jane too...

That might scare her into admitting what she's up to perhaps!

MadMadamMimz · 26/02/2024 19:09

saradika · 26/02/2024 18:59

Could you do a subject access request for the email address and number? Not sure if it makes a difference that they know it wasn't you who contacted them...

I was going to suggest this too. The SAR should reveal the email address and presumably any phone number on file (she might have been daft enough to leave her mobile number).

LakieLady · 26/02/2024 19:10

This is all very weird. She's incredibly devious imo.

I hope she hasn't taken advantage of being at your address to take out credit cards or loans or something in your name, OP.

This is the last thing you need when you're not well, I'm so sorry.

Dearg · 26/02/2024 19:12

whiteorchids44 · 26/02/2024 18:56

So sorry to hear you are going through this OP. I'd file a report to the police about potential fraud and possible identity theft. I would have them ask the estate agent forward the email address provided to the police if they can't give it to you. I would also put an alert on your credit cards as well. If Jane has created an email address with your name, how do you know she doesn't intend to open credit cards or take out loans in your name? Do you have Ring or CCTV to see if Jane stops by to check your mail from time to time? I wonder about her intent. For someone to create an email account with your name and orchestrate this with an estate agent, it all just sounds really dodgy.

I agree with this. EA are being a bit too blasé . They may not have followed through at this point, but this looks like a fraud in the making and they should be more anxious to sort it out.

TequilaNights · 26/02/2024 19:12

Emails are very easy to make, can be set up within minutes in any name with no need for proof.

Her explanation makes no sense at all, I cant think of anyone without an ulterior motive that would let in an estate agent into someone else's house, that has not mentioned selling and were at a hospital appointment, not try to contact them or remember to tell them.

Check your credit report, check through tour camera for any other suspicious activity.

So sorry your having to deal with this on top of trying to navigate your health.

Abeona · 26/02/2024 19:12

I'm not sure this makes sense. I sold a property about 18 months ago. I had three estate agents round to value it. They gave me a verbal valuation after looking around and then followed it with a written one via email. At no point was I required to show any credentials — that part came after I had decided which estate agent I was going to go with, and after we'd bargained over their fee and the length of time they had exclusive marketing rights. I then signed a contract to that effect before the property was marketed. So a lot of what the estate agent said doesn't seem quite right.

I'd sum up what they told you, OP, and send them an email on the lines of 'Just to recap the conversation we had this afternoon so that I've got things right...' and ask them if that's an accurate summary of events.

I would be asking Jane to move into a hotel for the next few days and changing the locks.

MrsBlackett · 26/02/2024 19:13

In making the arrangements she was impersonating you, even if she later answered the door as Jane. If she had been doing this on your behalf, she would have told you about the visit.

If the estate agents are refusing to let you have the email address or phone number they have been dealing with, could you show them your phone number(s) and email address(es) and ask them if these match the ones they have been holding. That would rule them out and implicate her even more clearly.
I assume you or DB know the address she is due to be renting. If I were in your position, I would be contacting the lettings agency just to make sure that neither of you had been named as guarantors for her rent.

martinisforeveryone · 26/02/2024 19:13

So at no point was 'Jane' impersonating anyone and yet in the OP

as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

TequilaNights · 26/02/2024 19:15

Could it be a condition of the new rental?
Perhaps putting you down as guarantor?

Zonder · 26/02/2024 19:17

custardlover · 26/02/2024 18:47

Wow! This feel incredibly sinister. And to confirm, Jane is now out of your property?

Hopefully with the locks changed.

CherryRipe1 · 26/02/2024 19:22

Jesus h Christ! I'm fuming! What a vile underhand, sneaky, conniving, ruthless piece of work. I just knew she was scheming to con you. I'm so sorry this has happened to you at such a horrible time. I'm so glad the jigs up for her. Sending hugs and my best wishes 💐

therealduchess · 26/02/2024 19:24

It's not unreasonable to want to know why she's had YOUR house valued! She's massively overstepped here

TravChief · 26/02/2024 19:24

Wow. That’s very devious. Have you googled her, she must have form for this surely. Why did she and your DB break up? The whole thing is very peculiar.