What is she up to?

[DontVisitCabotCove]

DB, his partner “Jane” & her 2 kids have been staying with me - in my house - after the house they were buying fell through. They had been looking at other properties to buy but have since decided to end their relationship so that’s no longer happening.

Yesterday while my DB and I were out and unbeknownst to me, Jane had an estate agent over to value my house & as he was leaving he told her he’d send her an email with the valuation & they were talking about viewings etc.

Today Jane asked me to give her a letter stating that my brother is living here but wouldn’t tell me why she wanted it & was really unhappy when I said I’d give her a letter saying they were both temporarily staying with me as that’s the actual truth.

What on earth could she be up to? I’m honestly baffled!

Should I tell her that I know about the valuation? Should I tell my DB about all of this?

On one hand I don’t want to get involved in their troubles or make things worse (things are bad enough between them already) but on the other hand I feel I’m being drawn into it as it’s my bloody house she had valued!

That's almost as bad! So the OP would be liable of Jane's rent if she did a moonlight flit. Bloody hell OP, I hope you find it in you to read the riot act and chuck her out, I don't think I've read anything so awful for a long time, she knows she can manipulate you, I'm so angry on your behalf.

Wow, OP. So sorry you’re going through this on top of everything else.

I agree with others that it’s worth updating the police on the latest info.

I’d also be furious that she was giving details of your highly personal medical condition to complete strangers as part of her scam. What an appalling way to repay your generosity for putting her up in a time of need.

Was your brother shocked by all this? Has he cut ties with her? I hope he pays for your new locks at the very least.

Jane is a lying cunt, that much is blatantly obvious.

If you want the contact info the estate agent has for you, make a data subject access request under UK GDPR - as they had it down as your personal info, they should provide it to you. The ICO website has more info, as will the estate agent's privacy notice (probably on their website). That email could be being used to impersonate you elsewhere and the telephone number will be further evidence that Jane is the culprit - and the estate agent can't really get in trouble for disclosing that as she's said it's your number and you have a right to your own data.

As my daughter's guarantor I can assure the OP that this would be very difficult without the OP's cooperation. She would need to provide all sorts of financial details and proof of home ownership. The hoops you have to jump through to be a guarantor are very tricky these days.

If the telephone number & email the estate agent has is “yours” then they should have no problem confirming your contact details with you 🤷🏼

What a despicable person Jane is. In spite of your illness you give Jane and her children a temporary home, even though she and your brother are no longer in a relationship, you offer her furniture for her new home, and this is how she repays your extraordinary kindness.

Jane is obviously devoid of any kind of empathy or humanity, proven by the fact that she tried to gaslight you when confronted by her behaviour, by using your illness and so called "brain fog" to try and lie her way out of her actions.

Jane has shown herself to be the lowest form of pond scum.

I'm so sorry you have been put through all this Op. I'm just glad you have supportive family around you. I wish you all the best.

I fear now that Jane has been tipped off that OP knows it'll be impossible to confirm it's her. She'll dump that email address / number like a hot snot.

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Jesus, what a despicable liar Jane is! Did you tell her you've reported the potential fraud to the police, @DontVisitCabotCove?

👍👍 Great! I've registered all my family on it & myself of course. The credit reference score agencies might be worth it too for other scams.

Yes, I thought the same thing, but the viewings bit is odd!
I strongly suspect she’s up to something in an attempt to gain financially from your brother - she’s trying to obtain some sort of evidence to state he is housed in a house valued at £xxx.
I’d tell both her and your brother that you know about the valuation and ask her to leave.

@DontVisitCabotCove

Don't you have a right to know what information the estate agent holds on "you"?

Data Protection: rights for data subjects - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I strongly suspect she’s up to something in an attempt to gain financially from your brother - she’s trying to obtain some sort of evidence to state he is housed in a house valued at £xxx.

That’s what I wondered - maybe a claim to some of property value? Cheeky madam. Some people have no shame or intelligence.

Just stop this! DB and Jane aren't married, have never been married and the children aren't his. Read the OP's full responses. Jane has no claim on OP or DB.

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or he is named in your will and she has bought a mushroom drying machine

Why do people think she has a claim to anything? They have no joint children, aren’t married and no joint property.

It’s infuriating reading this bilge 😤

I would be pushing forward with this via police reports. They need to be forced by the police to provide you with the email address and additional details they obtained from her. She needs to be prosecuted for impersonating you.

Yeah, it's shady that they are concealing it. Who regulates estate agents in UK? I would be filing a complaint with them. (Or at least suggesting to this EA that I am going to do that if they don't fully cooperate with me.)

Where have you made up Jane’s pregnancy from? At no point has it been said she’s pregnant 🙄

https://www.nationaltradingstandards.uk/work-areas/estate-agency-team/#:~:text=The%20National%20Trading%20Standards%20Estate,the%20Tenant%20Fees%20Act%202019.

If that's even her real name!!

I would chuck Jane out NOW. Don't be letting her stay any longer.

I think she was trying to sell your house from under you @DontVisitCabotCove this isn't the first time this has happened. There are more checks in place but it wasn't too long ago that I read about a man who returned from abroad to find a gang had sold his house.

https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/topics/property/property-fraud

This would really worry me. There has been series of unbelievable reports on transfer of title (unbeknownst to owner) of property. You and yours, R4. Worrying and fascinating and unbelievable in equal amounts. Totally agree to put a marker on your title at land registry.