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To be so flabbergasted by my husbands response to me asking him to get a vasectomy.

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Mumsgotaheadache01 · 25/02/2024 01:07

I've recently lost our 4th baby. Ive had 3 previous miscarriages. With 1 live birth, Of our very young child who has additional needs and was born with a birth defect. Was an IVF pregnancy. I have pcos, fibroids, fluid in pelvis the list goes on. And have only recently stopped breastfeeding our child. I really don't want to go on hormones for birth control as I don't want to mess up my hormones and my body anymore. I suffer enough and have had all number of procedures, tests, examinations, surgical procedures, scans and hormones pumped into my body. I just want to be left alone. I've been injured while giving birth very traumatically, many stitches, hemorrhaged etc. We don't have sex often for many reasons. Mainly being I'm exhausted from being mummy and in pain a lot. When we do it's lovely and I do love my husband very much. But this evening I asked him if he would think about getting a vasectomy. So we can enjoy our sex life again in the knowledge I won't get pregnant and have a miscarriage or another baby. Before I could even put to him my point of view he flat out refused. And said "I wouldn't put myself through that". I am just completely shocked by how selfish that is. It's upset me so much. Aibu to be flabbergasted or should I just calm down and try a see this from his point of view.

OP posts:
Rosebel · 25/02/2024 10:50

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 09:47

Then surely the more so she should be keen to have the operation, what happens if ops husband has the proceduee,will become depressed as he already inagines he will be,will suffer from erectile dysfunction (also a side effect), sex will be out of the window and relationship falls apart:

op meets a new guy and asks him to have a vasectomy too because SHE dosent want pregnancy?

ops husband can have children up to his 80s,why should he be blackmailed into such a decision when there are no guarantees they will be together until their old age? Ops husband might want another child in 5 or 10 years

So you think OP should put her body through even more because her husband might get depressed?
If he got depressed surely then he could get help for that too.
But no, let's make a woman who's already been through endless procedures suffer more.
By the way it's much quicker and generally better recovery time if a man has a vasectomy than if a woman gets sterilised.

Naunet · 25/02/2024 10:51

Toddlerteaplease · 25/02/2024 10:45

If this situation was reversed and the OP's partner was insisting she was sterilised, there would be uproar. Posters would be insisting he can't make her, it's her body etc etc.....

Again, there is no reverse to this. There is no male equivalent to what OP has been through.

Kittybythelighthouse · 25/02/2024 10:52

Garlickit · 25/02/2024 03:39

I'm bewildered by the sheer weight of "his body his choice" arguments here. I've reached the conclusion it must be necessary to state the obvious:

  • Women get pregnant. This is always a life-threatening enterprise; in some cases like OP's, the risks are severe.
  • Men don't get pregnant. Pregnancy never puts a man's health at risk.
  • Men cause pregnancy in women.
Therefore, the "body - choice" situation is shared by a man and woman who have sex without contraception. Every time a man ejaculates into a woman, he makes a choice about her body.

I feel like I'm talking to a class of nine-year-olds, but I'll soldier on. When we're considering a committed couple, everything that happens to the woman's body in relation to sex and conception is a joint responsibility.

If pregnancy is dangerous (or even undesirable, tbh) to the woman, it's the man's responsibility not to impregnate her. How he chooses to do this may be up for discussion but, if she can't safely use hormonal contraception or be surgically sterilised, he's only got two choices: vasectomy or abstention until her menopause is complete.

This

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 10:53

Butterdishy · 25/02/2024 10:43

If my DH tried to use his next wife as a an excuse for anything, he'd be out on his arse looking for her already. Get some standards.

Who has used his next wife as an excuse? He didnt he aaked what his wife did,only to be left and also loose his child only to have him on the weekends. For all other women he is in a friend zone

ops husband is realistic, he knows how being infertile would affect him and his opinion of himself, why does op get sumpathy for having to have ivf and not being able to carry a child,but a man dosent get any sympathy for not wanting to make himself infertile? Its not his fault that due to his physiology operation is faster for him

op is being overly dramatic,its an outpatient operation, if she needed appendix removed tomorrow what would she do then? Or any other operation-did op not say she has fibroids,sometimes these need to be removed,sign her man up again?

ElaineMBenes · 25/02/2024 10:53

@banananas1999 you are projecting massively.

The OPs husband didn't refuse because he wants more children in the future. His reason was because he doesn't want to put his body through the procedure.

You have added a whole narrative around future partners, future wives etc. it's fiction, something you've made up.

You also seem to think that all men would be looking to start a new family should their relationship break down. While we all know men can have children into old age, but how many actually do?
I know loads of men who have remarried in their 50s and 60s and none of them have had children in these situations. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I don't think it's as common as you are making out.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 25/02/2024 10:54

Even men are allowed bodily autonomy. Even men.

Hereforaglance · 25/02/2024 10:55

Is it not his body his choice or does that saying only apply to women

ElaineMBenes · 25/02/2024 10:55

@banananas1999 you also seem to only care about the OPs husband and his feelings.
There's no concern for the OP at all.

Naunet · 25/02/2024 10:57

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 10:53

Who has used his next wife as an excuse? He didnt he aaked what his wife did,only to be left and also loose his child only to have him on the weekends. For all other women he is in a friend zone

ops husband is realistic, he knows how being infertile would affect him and his opinion of himself, why does op get sumpathy for having to have ivf and not being able to carry a child,but a man dosent get any sympathy for not wanting to make himself infertile? Its not his fault that due to his physiology operation is faster for him

op is being overly dramatic,its an outpatient operation, if she needed appendix removed tomorrow what would she do then? Or any other operation-did op not say she has fibroids,sometimes these need to be removed,sign her man up again?

Ops husband = realistic
OP = overly dramatic.

I think you might just be a misogynist.

LameBorzoi · 25/02/2024 10:58

@ElaineMBenes That was his knee jerk response. I'm betting that there's a whole stack of layers to unpack underneath that.

JellyCatPenguin · 25/02/2024 10:58

Butterdishy · 25/02/2024 10:25

What a load of male apologist nonsense

Hear hear. The thread is full of it. And the sad thing is, the women don’t know they are doing it.

Viviennemary · 25/02/2024 10:59

I don't think a man should be pressurised into a vasectomy if he doesn't want one.

Butterdishy · 25/02/2024 10:59

So many women tying themselves in knots making up excuses for why he couldn't even discuss a vasectomy. Unbelievable.

JellyCatPenguin · 25/02/2024 10:59

Naunet · 25/02/2024 10:57

Ops husband = realistic
OP = overly dramatic.

I think you might just be a misogynist.

Hear hear

Abeona · 25/02/2024 11:00

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 10:36

Not about heir and spare- would your life be the same without your children? What would be the purpose? There would also be no grandchildren

not uncommon for parents to take their life after loosing a child

I don't have children. I have a great life.

JellyCatPenguin · 25/02/2024 11:00

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 10:53

Who has used his next wife as an excuse? He didnt he aaked what his wife did,only to be left and also loose his child only to have him on the weekends. For all other women he is in a friend zone

ops husband is realistic, he knows how being infertile would affect him and his opinion of himself, why does op get sumpathy for having to have ivf and not being able to carry a child,but a man dosent get any sympathy for not wanting to make himself infertile? Its not his fault that due to his physiology operation is faster for him

op is being overly dramatic,its an outpatient operation, if she needed appendix removed tomorrow what would she do then? Or any other operation-did op not say she has fibroids,sometimes these need to be removed,sign her man up again?

’ops husband is realistic, he knows how being infertile would affect him and his opinion of himself,’

Sorry I missed where the Op said this. Can you find it for me? Thanks.

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 11:01

ElaineMBenes · 25/02/2024 10:53

@banananas1999 you are projecting massively.

The OPs husband didn't refuse because he wants more children in the future. His reason was because he doesn't want to put his body through the procedure.

You have added a whole narrative around future partners, future wives etc. it's fiction, something you've made up.

You also seem to think that all men would be looking to start a new family should their relationship break down. While we all know men can have children into old age, but how many actually do?
I know loads of men who have remarried in their 50s and 60s and none of them have had children in these situations. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I don't think it's as common as you are making out.

Not projecting at all- i know 3 guys who are in their 50s and had babies last year

artpkvea · 25/02/2024 11:01

Why is everyone raising bodily autonomy? Of course he has a choice, the OP hasn't said she's planning on marching him down to the clinic. He can do what he wants with his body, but the OP can be disappointed in his decision, and re-evaluate her relationship as a result. His choice says a lot about him and how he values the OP, I completely respect his choice to not do it, but I encourage the OP to recognise what this means for their relationship, I couldn't be with a man who thought of me in this way.

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 11:01

as women are having children later on so are men, wasnt it in the news women in late 40s and early 50s have had babies refently?

Butterdishy · 25/02/2024 11:02

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 11:01

Not projecting at all- i know 3 guys who are in their 50s and had babies last year

Yeah, I'm not going to sacrifice my health to facilitate my DHs hypothetical midlife crisis. Babies in their 50s, honestly.

LameBorzoi · 25/02/2024 11:02

ElaineMBenes · 25/02/2024 10:53

@banananas1999 you are projecting massively.

The OPs husband didn't refuse because he wants more children in the future. His reason was because he doesn't want to put his body through the procedure.

You have added a whole narrative around future partners, future wives etc. it's fiction, something you've made up.

You also seem to think that all men would be looking to start a new family should their relationship break down. While we all know men can have children into old age, but how many actually do?
I know loads of men who have remarried in their 50s and 60s and none of them have had children in these situations. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I don't think it's as common as you are making out.

To be fair, having a surgical sterilisation in OP's situation (baby, recent miscarriage) is really, really not recommended. People's thoughts and feelings about fertility can change a lot.

Butterdishy · 25/02/2024 11:02

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 11:01

as women are having children later on so are men, wasnt it in the news women in late 40s and early 50s have had babies refently?

Edited

Aaaaaand there we have it. The projection.

Isitovernow123 · 25/02/2024 11:03

Hereforaglance · 25/02/2024 10:55

Is it not his body his choice or does that saying only apply to women

In the case of most MNs, yes it’s only women who have that choice.

Abeona · 25/02/2024 11:03

JellyCatPenguin · 25/02/2024 10:58

Hear hear. The thread is full of it. And the sad thing is, the women don’t know they are doing it.

Edited

Absolutely.

banananas1999 · 25/02/2024 11:03

Butterdishy · 25/02/2024 11:02

Yeah, I'm not going to sacrifice my health to facilitate my DHs hypothetical midlife crisis. Babies in their 50s, honestly.

Thats you tho,women often dont have that option to have a baby in 50s anyway

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