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To be angry that Scarlet Blake is being called a woman.

795 replies

ArabellaScott · 23/02/2024 15:42

Scarlet Blake has been found guilty of murder. He also tortured and killed a cat.

He is not a woman.

This shouldn't be reported as a woman's crime.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68360122

Scarlet Blake

Cat killer Scarlet Blake found guilty of murdering Jorge Martin Carreno

Jorge Martin Carreno was pulled from a river after being killed by Scarlet Blake in 2021.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68360122

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DaphneMoo · 23/02/2024 21:40

Just read the article in the Times, all she / her and only mention to being transgender is that they were previously known as Alice. Trying to work out how to cancel my subscription, looks like I need to call them up tomorrow, absolutely fuming

Jackiebrambles · 23/02/2024 21:45

DaphneMoo · 23/02/2024 21:40

Just read the article in the Times, all she / her and only mention to being transgender is that they were previously known as Alice. Trying to work out how to cancel my subscription, looks like I need to call them up tomorrow, absolutely fuming

Same, so bloody disappointed in them.

TobKat · 23/02/2024 21:58

This is absolutely disgraceful. It should be made very clear in news reports that Scarlet Blake is transgender. This is another case of trans 'rights' superseding women's rights. This person wants to identify as female and we must all oblige, despite the fact that they're a sadistic murderer. Statistics show that women rarely commit violent crimes. It's frightening to see that the BBC is untrustworthy. I bet this person is placed in a women's prison, it's utterly shameful.

Winter2020 · 23/02/2024 22:00

Pinkfrlls · 23/02/2024 16:07

Who cares what gender they are? I'm horrified by that cruel sadistic behaviour. It wouldn't be any better if it was done by a person of a different gender.

I don’t want men’s crimes attributed to women. With what other “minority” group would it be ok to blame the minority knowing full well that they were not responsible.

Sex not gender.

“Blake who was born male but now identifies as female” or similar near the top of the article would cover it.

…and the crime should be recorded as male crime because it is.
Or if that is too problematic “crimes committed by men that identify as female” would also cover it.

Jackiebrambles · 23/02/2024 22:02

The Times has changed the headline so it’s no longer ‘woman’ but ‘cat killer’. Honestly

TobKat · 23/02/2024 22:04

PoddleOn · 23/02/2024 21:32

It has become apparent that there are an increasing number of violent criminals who are hiding behind the mask of womanhood with insidious agendas. These people are manipulating the general public and by reporting on them using their own narrative, the BBC and other broadcasters/journalists become complicit in that.

Society is effectively being gaslighted into believing that the right of a small minority to hijack a gender identity to further their own nefarious means, supersedes the rights of the majority.

Well said, totally agree with this.

Froodwithatowel · 23/02/2024 22:04

Cat killer gender. Rapist gender. Oh the coyness and the cowardice.

KickHimInTheCrotch · 23/02/2024 22:08

The courts, police, cps, prison and probation services will not have him recorded as a woman. While they tend to use people's preferred pronouns just for politeness the assessment of risk presented by any individual and the location at which they are held is very much linked to biological sex.

KohlaParasaurus · 23/02/2024 22:08

Fucking furious that the media are choosing to fawn over this convicted murderer with his preferred pronouns rather than get behind the women who are saying, "He's not ours, we don't want him."

NotGoingToLie · 23/02/2024 22:11

This actually really upsets me. I’d read previous stories and having not seen any photos believed it was a woman. I thought it was very unusual but didn’t question. Now I realise I have been duped. I’m fucking livid frankly. Where will this end?

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 23/02/2024 22:38

Bbc News South Today just now gave absolutely no hint that Scarlet was anything other than a woman.
I am so bloody angry.

Fordian · 23/02/2024 22:54

I am annoyed that the BBC complaints demands your email address, name, home address, and phone number in order to place a complaint against a service WE FEKKEN WELL PAY FOR.

But I have registered a complaint.

I'm 61. It comes as a shock to me, over the past few years, the extent to which the BBC has lost its way.

But please put in a complaint.

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catscatscurrantscurrants · 24/02/2024 00:03

I've complained to the BBC. I am bloody angry about this. The lying cowards.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/02/2024 00:07

I have no issue with Scarlett being referred to as a transgender woman or the female pronouns being used for her. I think the press (and judge) are right to report in this way. It is a basic respect shown to all transgender people.

It's complete and utter disrespect for all women.Angry This person lost the right to the polite fiction of 'woman' or 'she' when he torturously killed that poor cat and murdered a human. What 'respect' is this man due?

Stopsnowing · 24/02/2024 00:10

I heard about this as a woman committing the crime and thought how strange. Now I know why.

Abitofalark · 24/02/2024 01:15

That BBC article should have had a content warning. I wish I hadn't seen those gruesome details and felt sickened. They're rather more careless with my sensitivities than they are with selected others.

It's a badly written article and not just because the unnamed author does not know how to spell disdain. The lie of reporting a male criminal to be a woman is blatant and cruel. And it's amplified in a bold heading and link underneath the article:.

"From other local news sites

Woman, 26, GUILTY of murdering Jorge Carreno "
...
Then we are informed "...and came out to her parents as transgender at 12."
Stick the word 'transgender' on a child or assert that a child can 'come out as', as if it is something that the child is. It's slipperiness with language. What does the writer think the 'trans' in 'transgender' signifies? It not just a free-floating arrangement of letters. How does the BBC justify using the term? There has to be something behind attributing that to a child. But what? I think we should be told because otherwise we might believe it is taking an ideological position and feeding us a line.

Murdoch1949 · 24/02/2024 03:43

The murderer must go into a male prison. Any intact m2f transgender must not be in a prison with women. The Home Secretary needs to instruct all prison governors of this.

Whatkatyforgottodo · 24/02/2024 04:13

Fordian · 23/02/2024 22:54

I am annoyed that the BBC complaints demands your email address, name, home address, and phone number in order to place a complaint against a service WE FEKKEN WELL PAY FOR.

But I have registered a complaint.

I'm 61. It comes as a shock to me, over the past few years, the extent to which the BBC has lost its way.

But please put in a complaint.

I feel the same but have also logged a complaint.

KickHimInTheCrotch · 24/02/2024 05:37

Murdoch1949 · 24/02/2024 03:43

The murderer must go into a male prison. Any intact m2f transgender must not be in a prison with women. The Home Secretary needs to instruct all prison governors of this.

Thus isn't a new issue - there is a whole process whereby the location of transgender prisoners is very carefully considered.

DriveMeCrazy1974 · 24/02/2024 06:30

This case has been reported on the Oxford Mail website for months now and it's only in the last week or so that I can remember them mentioning that Scarlet is a transwoman. In fact, I remember just a few days ago reading that fact and being surprised it wasn't mentioned earlier. Until just a week or so ago, I was under the impression that Scarlet was a woman - this was all down to the reporting on the local news site.
The crime is horrific as is what this person did to the poor cat.
I wonder how long Scarlet will identify as a woman for when they're placed in a man's prison? I really hope the judge doesn't pander to Scarlet and place them in a woman's prison, but, I've got a horrible feeling this might happen.

pickledandpuzzled · 24/02/2024 06:37

KickHimInTheCrotch · 24/02/2024 05:37

Thus isn't a new issue - there is a whole process whereby the location of transgender prisoners is very carefully considered.

Well it wasn’t very carefully considered, was it? When Karen White and Islas Bryson eat al we’re in women’s prisons.

Careful consideration is not needed. Male prisoners including transwomen go to male . Individual need within that category to be considered as usual. Vulnerable prisoners wing etc.

PankhurstismySuffregette · 24/02/2024 07:41

I’ve complained, so sick of this.

Froodwithatowel · 24/02/2024 08:04

KickHimInTheCrotch · 24/02/2024 05:37

Thus isn't a new issue - there is a whole process whereby the location of transgender prisoners is very carefully considered.

Let's not be disingenuous about this, the 'careful consideration' has largely been 'how do we hush this up and hide all the evidence so these horrible men can crack on using and abusing all our women prisoners as is right and proper?'

In England they're at least being a bit more careful but Scotland seem to be heading fast back towards enthusiastic human sacrifice as soon as special men are involved.