To be angry that Scarlet Blake is being called a woman.

[ArabellaScott]

Scarlet Blake has been found guilty of murder. He also tortured and killed a cat.

He is not a woman.

This shouldn't be reported as a woman's crime.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68360122

You make it sound like the women in prison are innocent. Assuming Scarlet is on E and continues getting it whilst in prison, why not put Scarlet in prison with other murderers?

The punishment for the women in prison is the incarceration itself, not being locked in with a violent, dangerous man. What a shocking thing to say.

Innocent?! What a fucking weird way to put it. So you think women in prison should be punished by being subjected to a violent male psychopath?

That's fucking cold.

There's an entire pseudoscience around it called autogynephilia. It's played a big role in the development of transphobia for decades.

You can see the affects in this thread when people seem to think Scarlet is going to be some sexual threat to women in prison - when in reality trans women tend to have very low sex drives and certainly cannot "do it" as a man could.

She is a threat to women, but because she is a psychopath, not because she is a trans woman. Yet that seems to have flown under the radar??

I've taken some time to think about your reply and thank you for replying.

You know you could save your energies to worry about the safety and treatment of peaceful/law abiding people whatever their sex or gender or even to fight for the rights and support of peaceful/law abiding trans people if you so choose.

Why waste your time worrying about what treatment a sadistic, animal torturing murderer will receive? It would be interesting for you to ask yourself if you would be worried about what treatment a plain old man or woman with the same background of criminality would receive. Yes a plain old man or woman could be attacked in prison sexually or otherwise, they could be stabbed or even killed. Are you worried about that? I'm not - they should have thought of that before they committed pre-meditated murder.

Why not save your emotional energies for the innocent?

I still have no idea what a "cis" woman is supposed to be. A feminine female? A female who is aware they have a female body? I'm fairly sure I'm not cis, which might make me trans.

As usual no-one ever explains even one thing that would differentiate between being cis or trans. I used to think it was wanting to be the opposite sex but apparently sex isn't what makes you a woman or a man, it's something else but they won't say what, or are pretending to know but don't.

As someone pointed out on the Reddit thread, the proportion of women in prison for sexual violence is significantly lower than that of men/MTFs.

He'll doubtless be put in the 'vulnerable' category for his own protection - partly because of his 'trans identity' and partly because of the particularly vile nature of his crimes.

Oh wait, so this talk of E. Is a woman someone with particular hormones in their body? Is that the determining factor?

There's an entire pseudoscience around it called autogynephilia. It's played a big role in the development of transphobia for decades.

Literally everyone has come across at least one sexually motivated crossdresser in their lives. Please don't try to piss down our backs and tell us it's raining, as the saying goes.

Also it's O, not E, in this country.

He is a threat to women for several reasons. Most women in prison have been subject to male violence. Many will have PTSD. The presence of any man in prison with them is likely to cause fear, anxiety and possibly a trauma response.

That's before we even get into the fact that he has several extreme paraphilias, enjoys sadism, is violent, etc.

Of course the women prison aren’t “innocent”. They are however vulnerable and are in the state’s care. This means that the authorities have a responsibility to keep them safe, particularly as they are incarcerated and cannot remove themselves from harm’s way. Incarcerating them alongside violent males would be a huge failure in the state’s duty of care.

He is a threat to everyone. He has already murdered a man in a pre-meditated fashion. He wasn't afraid of that person was he? The threat is not ideological/philosophical it is real. Perhaps some of the men in prison will also be afraid of him - considering he is a sadistic murderer?

Why not put Scarlet is put in a cell with Lucy Letby? Sarah Barrass? Take your pick.

They can be psychopath friends.

Scarlet is a threat because she (he in your view) is a psychopath and a murderer, not because they are trans.

Why not put Scarlet is put in a cell with Lucy Letby? Sarah Barrass? Take your pick.

They can be psychopath friends.

By the same token, why not put him in a cell with Levi Bellfield or Ian Huntley? They were only violent towards women and girls. Scarlet, as an obvious male, would be fine.

Why not put Scarlet is put in a cell with Lucy Letby? Sarah Barrass? Take your pick.

Because Scarlett doesn't belong anywhere in the female estate.
That's all there is to it.

Scarlett Blake is not a woman.

Is there actually something wrong with you?

Scarlet Blake is male, regardless of feelz, so will go to a male prison. He won't be the only transwoman in that prison, he won't be the most unpleasant person in that prison. He will be exactly what he has tried not to be - a nondescript sex murderer with paraphilias, just like half the other men on his wing. I am sure in a few years, he will feel right at home.

Because I believe no prisoner should be subject to 'extra' punishment. Not Scarlet Blake nor Lucy Letby.

My anger does not stop me from believing that prisoners deserve to be kept safe while incarcerated.

Of course the women prison aren’t “innocent”.

They're not "innocent" but most of them are there for relatively minor financial and drugs offences, rather than live-streaming the torture and killing of cats and murdering men in cold blood.

I totally agree - sorry if I wasn’t clear. @Erin394 seemed to be suggesting that as these women have committed a crime, they shouldn’t expect to be kept safe from violent transwomen. My point was that even if they are not innocent (whether they’ve committed fraud or have murdered), they still shouldn’t be locked up with violent males.

We agree. Scarlett is a threat because Scarlett is a psychopath and a murderer.

The fact that Scarlett is trans is irrelevant. So why are you focused on the fact Scarlett is trans?

Scarlett is a man that has murdered someone and will go to prison. The trans identity is irrelevant.

Scarlett is a man so should not go to a women's prison. Whether they go to a man's prison in some special wing for murderous psychopaths is up to the crown (or whoever it is that decides these things) but I think we have established that murderous, sadistic men don't go to women's prisons anymore.

You make it sound like the women in prison are innocent. Assuming Scarlet is on E and continues getting it whilst in prison, why not put Scarlet in prison with other murderers?

And there we have it women prisoners deserve the extra punishment of having violent male incarcerated with them. However, said violent male deserves special treatment because trans but, but, but can't reference the fact said male is trans in relation to the crime because it makes trans people look bad.

He'll be right at home with the other male murderers and that is where he should be.

My point was that even if they are not innocent (whether they’ve committed fraud or have murdered), they still shouldn’t be locked up with violent males.

Yes, absolutely, didn't mean to make it sound like a challenge to what you said, it was more to clarify for others, particularly Erin.

Scarlet is a threat because she (he in your view) is a psychopath and a murderer, not because they are trans.

I think Erin's close to getting it! Exactly, as we have been saying - being trans or otherwise is irrelevant. It's not even really defined.