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Boys dominating the playground

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Namechangeforthiss · 23/02/2024 12:02

I’ve noticed at DD’s school the enclosed, paved playground is quite dominated by boys playing their (rough!) games in the middle. Meanwhile the girls mill around the edges, seemingly a bit nervous to even cross it, let alone join in. I’ve noticed the boys also seem to feel more ‘entitled’ to play equipment as well as the playground space and will be quite rough and jostle past if a girl tries to play on it.

Do you think playgrounds should be halved, not to segregate by sex (and both sexes should be encouraged to join in any game they want) but to save some space for children who want to play less physical/rough games?

Feel free to tell me I’m being precious! (I have a son as well, not smug girl mum complaining about boys, but he’s only 1!).

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brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 26/02/2024 22:36

RufustheFactualReindeer · 26/02/2024 22:29

Because i think both boy’s schools and girls schools would show a very similar pattern

Children round the edges and children running round the middle

which you don’t see in the diagrams above

But you do. Am I misunderstanding you perhaps ? The diagrams show some kids on the edges and some in the middle.

AlwaysColdHands · 26/02/2024 22:39

Apologies not time to read the whole thread, but this dominance of the space by boys playing football was one of the reasons our school has implemented the OPAL play scheme in recent years. Look it up.
much more varied play now, staff evidence and pupil feedback testifies to this

Cel77 · 26/02/2024 22:40

Namechangeforthiss · 23/02/2024 12:02

I’ve noticed at DD’s school the enclosed, paved playground is quite dominated by boys playing their (rough!) games in the middle. Meanwhile the girls mill around the edges, seemingly a bit nervous to even cross it, let alone join in. I’ve noticed the boys also seem to feel more ‘entitled’ to play equipment as well as the playground space and will be quite rough and jostle past if a girl tries to play on it.

Do you think playgrounds should be halved, not to segregate by sex (and both sexes should be encouraged to join in any game they want) but to save some space for children who want to play less physical/rough games?

Feel free to tell me I’m being precious! (I have a son as well, not smug girl mum complaining about boys, but he’s only 1!).

I notice that pretty much in every school I visit for my job.
It teaches girls they have less right to space, therefore less of a voice. It's very wrong. Not many girls play football in playgrounds (there are always a few, I'm just saying it's mostly boys) so I agree the football area should be clearly defined by cones for example. If the game is too rough and the ball always comes out of the boundaries, then the right to play disappear for a day. It's only fair as all children have the right to use the playground and not feel intimidated by a ball coming their way.

Cel77 · 26/02/2024 22:45

Vittoriosa · 23/02/2024 22:32

What a load of nonsense. As a mum of 2 boys and a female myself I think this is coming across as extremely precious. All girls are not precious little wallflowers and all boys are not violent tyrants. If there is a specific issue that affects your child raise that with the school.

It's not nonsense if almost all of the playground area is taken by a game of football and others have to try to slot in the remaining space. And as it's mostly boys playing football in the playground (always a few girls but the majority are boys), girls are the ones having to find whatever space they can to play.

Cel77 · 26/02/2024 22:49

Alittlecappuccino · 24/02/2024 09:06

You are really overthinking this non issue. The quiet kids that want to draw or play board games have always had an indoor space to spend lunchtimes at any of the schools I have ever known.

Life is made up of all different types of people and the sooner kids learn that the better. Real life doesn't make allowances to accommodate the minority... scratch that it never used to, but we are heading that way in all realms of society and it has created an entitled snowflake generation.

Actually, most children are asked to go outside at playtime or lunchtime as there are not enough adults to supervise them inside so that's not true.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 27/02/2024 08:09

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 26/02/2024 22:36

But you do. Am I misunderstanding you perhaps ? The diagrams show some kids on the edges and some in the middle.

Yes you are but I’m probably not explaining it well 😀

RufustheFactualReindeer · 27/02/2024 08:25

One more go

i think in both single sex schools the drawings would look more like the blue one above,

i think that mixed sex schools will generally look like the the blue for boys and red for girls

i think it would be interesting to see for definite as obviously I have no real idea

when the boys went to play football on the field the girls didnt stay to the side in the main playground at our school

and actually when the year twos were not in school at lunchtime (trip or whatever) from memory I would say the playground did look different then

reception playground was more ‘cluttered’ with toys but both sexes played with everything I would have said

Alittlecappuccino · 27/02/2024 08:54

@Cel77 Except it is true in many schools...

bathinginbeans · 27/02/2024 09:16

Ask the Head to draw a chalk line down the middle of the playground with one side for the boys and the other side for the girls. Then employ a very dour playground assistant to guard the border.

Also, make sure the outside toilets (the only toilets in the school) are on the girls' side, so the boys have to ask permission to cross the line and walk past groups of scowling and giggling girls to use the loo.

NinetyPercent · 15/03/2024 14:13

@Namechangeforthiss did you speak to the school? What did they say? Women in Sport have just launched a campaign specifically about this (which is evidence based, to all the naysayers you had clogging up the thread 🙄) which you could send to the school
https://womeninsport.org/resource/teachers-toolkit-creating-mini-allies/

Group of students jumping in school gym

Teachers Resource: Creating Mini Allies

Gender stereotypes are embedded in us all. They lead to biases and inequalities with wide-reaching consequences for children. In sport we know that gender stereotypes can limit girls’ sporting…

https://womeninsport.org/resource/teachers-toolkit-creating-mini-allies/

YouJustDoYou · 15/03/2024 14:16

Yeah, our kid's playground is the same but the girls have learned how rough/nasty boys can be, so they've learned to keep to themselves and try not to get too near the rough/nasty ones.

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