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TO THINK THERE'S A LOCH NESS MONSTER

154 replies

Friedchickenrocks · 21/02/2024 18:23

I really believe there's something undiscovered in the 23 mile pitch black Loch, Too many people have seen SOMETHING. Over 1000 sightings. Okay dome could be the mind, tricks of the light, logs, seals etc but surely not all. No it can't be a plesiosaur as the loch is only 10,000 years old and they died out millions of years ago. Sonar and DNA proved there isn't one but doesn't it connect to the sea? So it could come and go and not be in there permanently. Adrian Shine who has camped there 40 years and Jeremy Wade both think it's a huge Greenland shark. Giant eel 20ft long? The most dna found was from eels.

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AgnesX · 22/02/2024 07:49

Do you believe in UFOs as well?

ExpressCheckout · 22/02/2024 07:55

Also don't forget about the poor wee Hamish. There's a three part documentary about them on YouTube. Difficult to see, but you hear them singing at night 😍

Bagpuss - The Hamish Part 1

Bagpuss episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKcExMa0Dhk

ScarlettSunset · 22/02/2024 08:04

I don't think there is. But it would be great if there was.
There are species that were once thought extinct that are found every now and then, so anything is possible really.
But honestly, with the focus that's been on it, I truly doubt there's anything there (but could be somewhere else). It's great for tourism though.

WessexWanderer · 22/02/2024 08:10

I've been to Loch Ness and camped beside it. It is vast and beautiful. We did a boat trip which sonar maps what's beneath you. There was nothing interesting on our trip. But the skipper said a few times a year they pick up something that is bigger than any of the known creatures in the Loch.

Sceptics say it's probably tree trunks fallen on the Loch. But if they go back later the thing is no longer there and, as the skipper said, tree trunks can't swim...

His theory was giant eels. But I hope we never know for sure as I love the mystery of it all. But whether you see something or not, Loch Ness is well worth a visit for the scenery alone.

Anyotherdude · 22/02/2024 08:13

Most discoveries of previously undiscovered creatures still being made on the planet, are of the underwater kind.
I visited and would have loved to have seen something unexplained, but alas, no sighting for me.
That said, it is a lovely part of the world and well worth visiting!

themissingwife · 22/02/2024 08:15

Hello! I have name changed for this so 🤞it works!

I'm a writer and I wrote a novel set in 1933 near Loch Ness. That's when Nessie mania really took off and there were rewards offered to catch her and all sorts.

Anyway, obviously as part of my research, I did a lot of reading about the monster and listening to podcasts and watching documentaries etc. And because of that I went from thinking it's just a fun story to absolutely believing! (Which surprised me, I have to admit!). My novel isn't really about the monster - it's just a backdrop to the plot - but I enjoyed the research enormously and like I say, it changed my mind!

ElaineMBenes · 22/02/2024 08:17

Untilitisnt · 22/02/2024 06:31

Dear god, how long does half-term go on for these days?

No need to need to be so grumpy!!

I have a 53 year old husband who has always been interested in the Loch Ness monster and cryptozoology in general. He finds in fascinating.

And FYI half term varies between areas with some schools being off this week.

Ifailed · 22/02/2024 08:20

At it's deepest, it's twice the average depth of the North Sea

It's deepest point is 230 metres, and the average for the North sea is 70m, however it's deepest point is 725 metres, nearly three times deeper.

LeSoleil · 22/02/2024 09:10

About 40 years ago I was driving round the loch with a friend. It was very early morning, around 06:30 early September. The sun had only just risen, but the light was clear, casting some shadows in the odd places.

As we rounded a bend close to some rocks we could not believe our eyes. There in front of us to the right, by the rocks was a long 20-30 foot slimy, scaly beast, curling and thrashing around. It was long and snake-like, dark brown to a drab olive, very muscular like an anaconda, but flatish rather than round. Blood was dripping out of its nostrils and mouth which was partly open. It was then we realised it was a giant eel and its mouth was open in some pain.

All this was happening in a short space of 2-3 seconds and my instinct was to stop the car, so hitting the brakes we came to a shuddering halt. The head of this beast was thrashing around and hit the car bonnet spraying blood against the windscreen. It was then that we noticed this giant eel was actually in the long broad mouth of another creature - Nessie!

Oh my fucking god, I said. I wanted to say it with a slight Scottish twist, but to be honest humour was not going to be my main focus of that morning. "Och, mae fucking god" I mused as the real beast cut the body of the eel in two with a scissor snap of its jaws. Eel livers, heart and lungs slopped onto the road right next to my window. then its head landed on the car roof as we watched its last blinks of life ebb away from its eyes through the transparency of the sunroof.

At that moment another car approached from the opposite direction. The larger creature thrust its neck and head out towards it, seizing the vehicle in its jaws before crushing it down to a height of about 60 centimetres. At that point, I stuck the car into reverse and accelerated backwards as fast as I could. Then we got a full glimpse of the real Nessie. Standing about 80-90 feet tall, with a yellowy skin and platelets of armour (more like a rhinoceros than a dinosaur), it looked truly terrifying. The beast started moving towards us and with a final acceleration backwards the eel's bloody head slipped off the car roof, slid down the bonnet and rolled into the road. As Nessie was moving towards us with jaws outstretched to bite us into a thousand pieces, it tripped on the eel head and stubbed its toe really hard on the tarmac road.

The last we saw was Nessie hobbling towards the water with one foot up, clearly in pain looking for the sanctuary of the cool water. When we got back to the local town we headed straight to the police station to file a report. It was shut though.

Zyq · 22/02/2024 09:13

Assuming that, if it exists it has to be a family rather than one creature that has lived there for centuries - what does happen when they die? Without going into too much detail, gas tends to form in mammal corpses so that they float to the surface, some at least are likely to die in the shallower areas so that the bones would be found, and it would be surprising if some were not washed ashore.

Friedchickenrocks · 22/02/2024 09:15

AgnesX · 22/02/2024 07:49

Do you believe in UFOs as well?

Yes and alien abduction.

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Porfirio · 22/02/2024 09:23

I didn't like it when I went there. A strong sense of foreboding.

The water is very deep and you can only see down a couple of feet.

Loch Lomond on the other hand is beautiful.

Morepieplease · 22/02/2024 10:36

. It was shut though And I suppose you didn't have a dash cam 40 years ago .

cordeliachaseatemyhandbag · 22/02/2024 16:30

There's more water in Loch Ness than in every body of water in England combined.

The depth is unfathomable. The bed has never been fully explored.

No one really knows what's down there.

In real life it's also so dark so quickly it's quite scary.

HadEnufff · 22/02/2024 16:32

Does your MIL live in Loch Ness?

Friedchickenrocks · 22/02/2024 17:12

Zyq · 22/02/2024 09:13

Assuming that, if it exists it has to be a family rather than one creature that has lived there for centuries - what does happen when they die? Without going into too much detail, gas tends to form in mammal corpses so that they float to the surface, some at least are likely to die in the shallower areas so that the bones would be found, and it would be surprising if some were not washed ashore.

What if they can come and go and died in the sea?

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Ifailed · 22/02/2024 21:13

The depth is unfathomable.

No it's not. See previous posts.

VickyEadieofThigh · 23/02/2024 11:37

I think remains of one would've been found by now - all we have is vague, grainy old photos, fakes and eyewitness descriptions.

Until/unless there's definite evidence, I'm in the 'doesn't exist' camp.

Nightjaaard · 23/02/2024 11:45

I would love to believe there was its a nice thought but the scientific facts of the lake make it almost impossible.

First of all up until 18,000 years ago, all the lakes were underneath at least a mile of ice. So it could not contain a dinosaur as the lake is way too young.

Secondly the volume of the lake and the density of the recorded fish their is just over 20 tons of fish living in the lake. The populations of fish in this area would not sustain a creature of this size, never mind a breeding population.

All good and well, but its a nice story and magical for those that believe.

Ifailed · 23/02/2024 12:10

What is almost certain is there are plenty of undiscovered life forms in the Loch, however they will be small, bottom dwelling creatures that feed on the debris as it filters down. Magnified 1000 times, they probably look quite fearsome.

CecilyP · 23/02/2024 12:35

Sonar and DNA proved there isn't one but doesn't it connect to the sea?

No it only connects to the sea by going through a series of locks which have to be opened and closed. I think the lock keeper would have noticed! Alternatively, by swimming through the River Ness which unavigable as is very shallow in parts and is the reason why the canal with all its locks was built in the first place.

GasPanic · 23/02/2024 12:47

I'm up for a bit of cryptozoology as the next person. But the Loch Ness Monster is unlikely to exist. How would you get a breeding population in a lake that small. Unless there is some sort of secret exit to the sea or it has an underground base.

My list of most likely cryptids is :

  1. Big cats in the UK.
  2. Sasquatch.
  3. Giant killer snake (amazon).
  4. Aboninamble Snowperson.
  5. Loveland frog.
MargaretThursday · 23/02/2024 13:05

I think the most interesting theory I've seen was that it was actually elephants from a circus. Apparently when a lot of sightings/photos happened was over a number of years where a circus used to camp near it and take the elephants in for a bathe. If elephants are out of their depth, they stick their trunk up out of the water and walk along the bed, and the trunk could look like a long thin neck with a small head.

Ilovemyshed · 23/02/2024 13:45

MargaretThursday · 23/02/2024 13:05

I think the most interesting theory I've seen was that it was actually elephants from a circus. Apparently when a lot of sightings/photos happened was over a number of years where a circus used to camp near it and take the elephants in for a bathe. If elephants are out of their depth, they stick their trunk up out of the water and walk along the bed, and the trunk could look like a long thin neck with a small head.

Loch Ness is a bit deep for that.