How do you feel about women that don't wear make-up -thread 2

[flutterby1]

Just wondering what your true JUDGY thoughts are? I don't wear makeup often I'm in my mid forties. How am I perceived? Lazy? Frumpy? Not caring? Boring? Can't be bothered to make an effort for others ? Or self confident enough not to ' need' it, regardless of how attractive you view yourself ?

My view is not wearing makeup all the time aligns with either or both

• having self confidence
• choosing values for how to spend your time that are above that of keeping up appearances or looking good for yourself or others.

Ie if makeup takes 20min per day, 7*20 = 140 mins a week.
Now if you choose to spend that time a different way, ie you go for a walk every morning. That's going to impact your health. That choice is what I think.

Also the feeling of having to wear makeup if you go to certain places is one of obligation and societal standards.
Can also be a lack of confidence from an individual and they don't feel comfortable without it.

I think its useful to question why and when you wear makeup (as well as other habits) and evaluate what matters to you and how you want to be.

Its a personal choice and it's not my business what others do.

For me, I think its important to be evaluating what I do with my time and when. So I don't always put time into wearing make up because I want to feel at peace without it (I wasn't as a teenager) and I want to choose when to make a beauty effort rather than feel obligated to every day and the time as well.
Sometimes it really helps to improve self confidence, esp if you have a bad day. But at the same time it is a trade off with time, and being able to be comfortable to not prioritise looking good so you fit things in more for you. That's what it's about. :)

I honestly do not notice. I have to actively think to work out who I know who doesn’t wear makeup. I think it’s quite a few people but they just look like themselves, and the makeup wearing people just look like themselves. You just see people how they present themselves and only notice if they change. Sometimes I’ve only realised someone doesn’t wear makeup if I see them dressed up on a special occasion and they have some on and it looks different.

I wear makeup myself daily - nothing fancy, not elegant, pretty basic, takes 2-3 mins. So I’m not in a “fellow non wearer” position.

I probably only notice if I see badly done makeup - patchy foundation, dodgy eye liner, or loads and loads of makeup. But since that’s just as likely to occur on people I’m very fond of as not, I don’t pay any heed to it.

I’m early 40s and don’t wear make up day to day - I do if I’m going out but can’t really see the point in wasting 20 minutes on the morning putting makeup on if all I’m doing is the school run! I don’t really care what people think of me to be honest - plus when I do make an effort people think ‘bloody hell she scrubs up well’ 🤣

I don't and don't care what anyone thinks. I don't think anyone has every commented.

I don't have an opinion. Not wearing makeup doesn't tell me anything about you apart from the fact that you don't want to wear makeup. I never leave the house without it, but it isn't obviously applied. With some people all you can see if their makeup, but again all this tells me is that this is how they want to present themselves. I think having clean, tidy, well cut hair and clean, tidy clothes is more important.

I only notice it when I see someone who always wears make up without it. And that's usually if they are house guests as theyblook different in the morning. Most people at work or I see daily don't wear it every day I don't think.If they do it's not something I give a thought to.

I think looking after your skin and health is something I value more than wearing makeup everyday.

Ie protection from uva and uvb rays. This can cause cancer. So I usually wear protection for this when I go outside.
It does turn out that this helps with anti aging. But I don't see it as makeup.

I see make up as surface level, whereas eating healthy, looking after skin, having sleep, hydrating, reviewing stressors, face and head massage, in life are more what I see as important now. They impact your health and that reflects in your appearance as well.
Makeup just seems to change colours of things.
And I'd rather take a more deeper look at what caring for myself is.

Appearing as a person of peace and good health, I think is more attractive than makeup.
When I think about friends and people I know, the people that I admire are not because they wear makeup.

I feel jealous if I’m honest and I know it sounds stupid. I’m so insecure in my own skin that I put make up on as my mask. I see women who go about naturally and I wish I had their confidence and their lovely skin.

I don’t wear heavy make up, I try my hardest to make it look natural and not cakey. I’ve gone to work a few times without and had comments from colleagues that I look tired, that I must be unwell or I’m having a bad day.
I’ve also had a ‘friend’ comment to my dh and her dh that I’m not one of those women who can go without and need make up to look more appealing.

If I saw a woman over 40 without make up my thoughts on her will be coloured by the occasion (gym, hospital, wedding), the context in which I see her (recently bereaved, just woke up, recovering from surgery, walking the dog), how the rest of her appearance looks in terms of style and grooming. Her accent and voice as well, does she sound like a posh woman,a rough accent, an essex accent?

If she looks good I would wonder if she has no make up make up on, of if she works in skin and beauty so has access to all the best tech or if she is a rich woman having a day off (sports, tired, feeling down, letting skin 'breathe').

If she has skin issues that would look better with make up like pigmentation, dark circles, sallow skin (basically how I look without make up) then I would wonder if she is ill, depressed or doesn't know how to apply make up (because that's my situation) because I know she would look better with some and it doesn't even take much time or products. The only times I haven't bothered were when I was too sad or ill or both to bother with make up.

If she looks average, depending on her mannerisms, voice tone and clothes I would wonder if she is a butch lesbian or religious or super feminist.

Good question. Never given it much thought really but thinking about it here goes:
Initial impression:
intelligent
Confident
Probably has a very good job, academic perhaps.
Good parent and spends time actually doing things with her family and taking them to interesting places.
More likely to take her family to places such as; national trust properties, woodlands, beaches.
Mote likely to eat good food.
Very unlikely to be seen in places such as McDonalds.
Does not buy fast fashion.
Had good quality furniture and interesting decor.
Would not find any hint of grey in her home, or those “Love, live……” type ornaments.

I don't notice or care whether women are wearing make up or not. I sometimes wear it but mostly don't bother.

The only time I might notice that someone is not wearing make up would be if it's someone who normally wears heavy make up (eg. Pamela Anderson). My thoughts probably wouldn't go beyond noticing it was a change in the same way I'd notice if their hair suddenly changed.

I do internally judge some women who wear really OTT heavy make up but I appreciate that it's their perogative to do so and I certainly wouldn't comment or change my opinion of them as a person.

What is a rough accent?

I admire those that don't feel the need to wear it. I think you can always tell, even if applied lightly and to look natural. I don't judge people on the basis of their makeup- I go through periods of wearing it every day, though atm am going barefaced. But I'd like to be confident enough to go to an occasion, like a wedding or night out, without feeling like I should be done up.

I am 50s I don't wear make-up and never have apart from nights out when I was in my 20s. A few reasons I have never been good at putting it on well, I find it can give me itchy eyes, I can't be bothered,
A lot of my friends don't wear makeup regularly either.
I am not a very observant person and generally don't notice what other people wear unless they are orange, I am much more interested in what people have to say than what they look like.

I rarely wear makeup to work, sometimes some concealer if I look especially tired or have a skin issue going on.
I do wear lash extensions, get my brows done, and I do my hair every day. So I don't think I come across as lazy. But maybe I do. I wear makeup if I'm in court but otherwise I don't bother.

I DO hope your DH told her to go fuck herself?

I don't wear make up.

I have tried, mostly when I am ill and I know my face reflects that.

I hate the way it feels on my skin. I hate the way it makes my eyes itchy.

And fundamentally I don't have to look at me so I don't care what I look like.

I wfh. I know there are minimum socially acceptable standards for both men and women for clothing and I do stick to them when I am out ( so I do dress up when needed) but frankly I live in jeans/joggers/shorts and T shirt and I'm very happy like that. I work for myself so my boss is also happy.

I don't worry too much about people judgjj in by me because I use a wheelchair and for most people that is the first and only thing they see. They wouldn't notice if I was an alien as they only see the wheelchair.

Surely not wearing make up is totally normal? I wouldn’t judge or even notice to be honest.

I'd not notice if someone isn't wearing makeup vs someone who is wearing a light coverage assuming both people are washed, clean and dressed in clean clothes / to suit the situation (eg being muddy after a dog walk or a run makes sense).

Agree with PP that being clean and dressed in clean clothes is what's noticed more than make up.

I'm.mid 40s and only really wear make up if I'm going out eg for dinner, to meet friends etc. I could easily go a week or more without putting it on.
I think I look nicer with it but a) I'm pretty lazy and b) I have oily skin, and I generally dislike the idea of adding a layer of something greasy to it (I don't wear moisturiser regularly for the same reason)
It's never crossed my mind what other people think of the fact I'm not wearing make up, despite not being particularly self confident.

He did! He’s not confrontational in the slightest but he told them to leave and we’ve not seen them since. It d shame as it’s his friends wife but my dh has made his feelings clear. Very thankful for him!

As I said in the other thread I don't wear makeup, I have no idea what I think of others who don't and I do what I do, what others do is up to them

I think they’ve made a choice and are strong since they’ve managed to stop cosmetic industries making them feel ‘less than.’

However, too much make up is another thing.

For example, giant eyelashes that inhibit the wearer’s eyesight.

But I judge the industries that promote them rather than the wearer.

I just hope the wearer ‘sees’ for herself one day as judging her would just be nasty and pointless.

I don’t wear make up because I can’t be arsed. I wore it as a teen, but got bored of if fast.

I can’t see my own face (unless I look in the mirror, but I don’t spend a lot of time doing the that), and I honestly couldn’t give a shit what anyone else thinks of my appearance, never have done.

I don’t notice or care what other people do. Wear make up, don’t wear it, it’s nothing to do with me. I’m wrapped up in my own problems. I don’t have time to contemplate other peoples faces.

I don't wear makeup. I have recently tried starting as I'm getting older and I do a lot of Teams calls for work, and sometimes get a shock when I see my own face on screen. I don't think anything of women who don't wear makeup, but I work with young people and I do feel sorry for young women who wear lots of makeup, because to me it indicates a lack of confidence and I do wonder why they feel the need- not if they have a bit of foundation, mascara añd lipstick but the thick foundation, false lashes towie look. They are lovely, polite, hardworking young women working towards a professional career so I do feel like saying ' I bet you look lovely under all that makeup' but I don't.

Omg 🤦‍♀️. You really face that some thought!