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Karen’s Diner/Katie Hopkins - cancel?

344 replies

RosaMoline · 16/02/2024 22:56

Quick question:
In the words of Mumsnet, AIBU?
It’s my eldest’s 30th this year, and as a surprise I’ve planned a day out for us on March 17th. We’re going to Hello Kitty cafe, Priscilla the Party and ending up in Karen’s Diner in Islington.
Some of you might know Karen’s from Social media. You basically get insulted and it looks very amusing.
I see from their insta, they’re doing some kind of collaboration with Katie Hopkins in their Manchester and Birmingham restaurants I think.
I am horrified and have left comments to that effect.
I actually feel that I want to cancel, and it’s a shame as it’s something we’d wanted to do for ages.
I however, cannot give my hard earned ££ to an organisation that is giving a platform to a racist right wing Trump supporting bigot.
Am I being unreasonable to cancel our reservation??

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canyouseemyhousefromhere · 19/02/2024 17:50

@Charlie2121
Perhaps the very richest people who own/hold large share in businesses should ensure they pay everyone enough wages so they don't need any top up benefits.

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 19/02/2024 18:32

Charlie2121 · 18/02/2024 22:01

What has TR said that is racist?

How about when he described all muslims as 'enemy combatants' and warned that 'every single Muslim would feel the full force of the English Defence League' and that the 'militias' they set up will 'clear out the Islamic problem' as a starter for ten?

Or that video where he's boasting about how he's bought drugs in every country he's ever visited and he calls a taxi driver a 'little P* that drives a car'?

Or when he was talking about the EDL supporting UKIP because 'they [UKIP] are saying exactly what we say, just in a different way. Islam is a cancer that needs eradicating, clear them all off to the desert'.

That racist enough for you?

Even if its not he's a convicted fraudster, stalker and violent thug.

Charlie2121 · 19/02/2024 18:38

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 19/02/2024 18:32

How about when he described all muslims as 'enemy combatants' and warned that 'every single Muslim would feel the full force of the English Defence League' and that the 'militias' they set up will 'clear out the Islamic problem' as a starter for ten?

Or that video where he's boasting about how he's bought drugs in every country he's ever visited and he calls a taxi driver a 'little P* that drives a car'?

Or when he was talking about the EDL supporting UKIP because 'they [UKIP] are saying exactly what we say, just in a different way. Islam is a cancer that needs eradicating, clear them all off to the desert'.

That racist enough for you?

Even if its not he's a convicted fraudster, stalker and violent thug.

Islam isn’t a race so being anti Islamic isn’t racist.

You can’t be racist against a religion but feel free to not let facts get in the way of your prejudices.

Cantara · 19/02/2024 18:55

As if Tommy Robinson is being defended. 😂 So if he isn't racist, he's "just" Islamophobic... yeah, that isn't any better.

CrazyLadie · 19/02/2024 18:59

coodawoodashooda · 16/02/2024 22:59

Katie Hopkins is alright.

You need yer heed read min 🙄 she is so vile she turns my stomach

CrazyLadie · 19/02/2024 19:03

SherbetDips · 17/02/2024 00:11

Fantastic I love Katie Hopkins. Someone who isn’t afraid to speak her mind and upset the woke brigade.

Think you need to look up the meaning of woke, it's not what you think it is

Charlie2121 · 19/02/2024 19:05

Cantara · 19/02/2024 18:55

As if Tommy Robinson is being defended. 😂 So if he isn't racist, he's "just" Islamophobic... yeah, that isn't any better.

A made up word to deflect any criticism.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Do you believe that Islam has brought nothing to the UK that anyone should be worried about and that any concerns are therefore unfounded?

RosaMoline · 19/02/2024 19:06

I never thought I’d see the day on Mumsnet with Tommy Robinson being defended, let alone Katie Hopkins! 😱

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JoeLovesGina · 19/02/2024 19:24

amylou8 · 17/02/2024 06:59

Nothing wrong with KH...you only need to look at the risen of Reform to see the right are taking a stand. Karen's diner on the other hand??? I don't get that at all...but if it's your thing go for it.

People thinking like you do are what gave the Nazis an in. Think about what you're saying.

puzzledout · 19/02/2024 19:49

@Charlie2121 are you actually defending Yaxley-Lennon aka Tommy Robinson.

I suppose it's easy to do behind a screen.

Cantara · 19/02/2024 19:57

Charlie2121 · 19/02/2024 19:05

A made up word to deflect any criticism.

A phobia is an irrational fear. Do you believe that Islam has brought nothing to the UK that anyone should be worried about and that any concerns are therefore unfounded?

Okay, if you don't believe an actual word in the English dictionary, hating people simply because they're Muslim. Does that make it better?
The whataboutery doesn't really work. Defend him all you like, Robinson is loud and proud of his hatred of various groups.

FeetLikeFlippers · 19/02/2024 22:32

LadyWithLapdog · 16/02/2024 23:50

@AmaryllisChorus you wonder how it lasted so long, but I suppose it was easier in pre SoMe times.

I think you meant “Me Too” but thanks for giving me a giggle. Now I’m imagining what the “So Me” movement might involve - sounds like it’s for narcissists!

LadyWithLapdog · 20/02/2024 07:41

Haha I meant Social Media, but So Me would fit in perfectly as well!

Overfullbookcase · 20/02/2024 18:22

FeetLikeFlippers · 19/02/2024 22:32

I think you meant “Me Too” but thanks for giving me a giggle. Now I’m imagining what the “So Me” movement might involve - sounds like it’s for narcissists!

The 'So Me ' people just go round singing songs from the 'Sound Of Music'.

Think they've amalgamated with the ' Fa La ' idiots.

Dangerous world out there.

FeetLikeFlippers · 20/02/2024 19:22

Overfullbookcase · 20/02/2024 18:22

The 'So Me ' people just go round singing songs from the 'Sound Of Music'.

Think they've amalgamated with the ' Fa La ' idiots.

Dangerous world out there.

Oh I’ve never heard of that, it sounds awful! I even googled “so me” and it didnt come up.

JoeLovesGina · 21/02/2024 07:39

Charlie2121 · 19/02/2024 07:15

That statistic is correct and was confirmed by the ONS.

54% actually receive more cash back in benefits than they pay income tax.

Then of the 46% who don’t, less than half actually pay more income tax than the value of the services they use. That isn’t such a surprising figure if you look at something like schooling costs. If you had 2 children at state school you’d need to earn 70k just to pay enough tax to cover their school costs without paying a penny towards anything else. In reality you would need to earn well over 100k per annum to cover your financial cost to the economy if you have 2 children at school.

Just 20% pay more in income tax than the total value of benefits and services they receive in return.

You need to be earning over 50k every year to break even, and for a couple you both need to be earning this amount each.

Again when the top 1% of society pay a third of all income tax it’s hardly a surprising statistic.

My point stands that an ever decreasing minority are funding an ever increasing majority.

Labour seek to demonise those who bankroll the masses yet fail to mention that society is bankrupt without them.

The reason working people are claiming benefits is because they don't earn enough. The minimum wage is nowhere near an actual living wage. The tax/benefits system is subsidising massive corporations who pay no corporation tax, pay their workers the bare minimum and make billionaires of their owners. That's the real problem and the government will do nothing to address this.

LadyWithLapdog · 21/02/2024 08:59

@JoeLovesGina well said. Also untold billions spaffed up the wall on various “projects”.

Moll2020 · 05/08/2024 00:01

I’m fed up to the back teeth of the 'Karen' nonsense . That is my name which I am now made to feel embarrassed about. It’s fucking ridiculous.

TheAverageJoanne · 01/09/2024 00:47

I heard a radio phone in last week about female voices on satnavs. A woman rang in and said her husband couldn't stand his satnav and called it Karen. I'm not sure who I dislike the most, the sexist fool, his wife for having terrible boundaries or Tina Daheley for reading it out.

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