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Karen’s Diner/Katie Hopkins - cancel?

344 replies

RosaMoline · 16/02/2024 22:56

Quick question:
In the words of Mumsnet, AIBU?
It’s my eldest’s 30th this year, and as a surprise I’ve planned a day out for us on March 17th. We’re going to Hello Kitty cafe, Priscilla the Party and ending up in Karen’s Diner in Islington.
Some of you might know Karen’s from Social media. You basically get insulted and it looks very amusing.
I see from their insta, they’re doing some kind of collaboration with Katie Hopkins in their Manchester and Birmingham restaurants I think.
I am horrified and have left comments to that effect.
I actually feel that I want to cancel, and it’s a shame as it’s something we’d wanted to do for ages.
I however, cannot give my hard earned ££ to an organisation that is giving a platform to a racist right wing Trump supporting bigot.
Am I being unreasonable to cancel our reservation??

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TheHoover · 18/02/2024 10:02

FSU is very much not a Trade Union. Members get no right to representation whatsoever. Any suggestion that it is a union and that members have any benefits akin to joining a trade union is sadly showing that TY’s blatant grifting tactics are working.

Moll2020 · 18/02/2024 17:44

Glad to read that most people think the Karen theme is stupid. It’s so insulting.

MissingMoominMamma · 18/02/2024 17:44

Vote with your feet, I say.

BestBadger · 18/02/2024 18:03

MikeRafone · 18/02/2024 09:37

Name a Union that takes action on behalf of a non member? That would be every Trade Union, they work for better pay and conditions in the workplace for all employees not just members.

there is a difference between taking action for a member to working for better working conditions as a collective.

non members don’t complain about the inclusiveness of unions work to get better overall conditions but will wilfully cross a picket line

a non member approaching a union for assistance will be denied assistance as they have chosen not to be including or pay membership

That depends on what you define as "taking action". A non Union member can absolutely raise an issue with their local Trade Union, the action taken though, as you say, won't include the direct assistance of the Union.

The TUC's mission statement includes the phrase "exists to make the world a better place for everyone" which is why they campaign around broader issues.

Chocolatecoveredshitpig · 18/02/2024 18:14

@RosaMoline - apologies if this has already been mentioned, but if you want to go the Hello Kitty cafe I can highly recommend the one in Brighton. You can book a table, (be quick though, they get booked up fast), the food is good and the theming is lovely. My DD has been there with friends several times and they all love it.

www.artbox.co.uk/brighton

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 18/02/2024 18:18

Is Katie Hopkins descended from Matthew Hopkins, Witchfinder General? It would explain a lot.

threatmatrix · 18/02/2024 18:33

When is it, I might buy tickets, love a bit of Katie.

MoonWoman69 · 18/02/2024 19:03

coodawoodashooda · 17/02/2024 08:18

She speaks the unspeakable. It's important to have people who are prepared to do that. It either challenges your own thinking or gives you a new understanding of your own opinion. I think she is very brave. After recent scandals where some celebrities were exposed for shocking behaviour, she spoke about her own reputation. She said that she knew she wasn't perfect and recognised mistakes she'd made. She said it was challenging and lonely. She said those perfect celebrities had judged her openly when their reputations were perfect and their behaviour inappropriate. I dunno. I think she's very brave.

I agree wholeheartedly with you there! It would be great if people actually took the time to listen to what she has to say, instead of just slagging her off because they don't like her! Which is how it's coming across to me, they don't like her, therefore she has nothing worthwhile to say! I confess, I myself didn't like her in the beginning, but having watched a few of her videos on YouTube, I changed my opinion! She has got some bloody guts, saying the things a lot of people are thinking anyway. But you either like her or you don't, each to their own I say.
As for the Karen cafe, never heard of it, but it doesn't sound like much fun to me! And I hate that a christian name has been used like this. I have a couple of friends called Karen, who are sick to death of it. I'm not even sure how it originated!

Ramalangadingdong · 18/02/2024 19:03

BobbyBiscuits · 16/02/2024 23:01

Totally cancel. Hopkins is pure scum. Just imagine if you turn up and they've got her and Tommy Robinson on podiums ranting? Sounds horrific.
There's loads and loads of places to eat in Islington. You do not need to use this bonkers sounding venue.

Islington is a very diverse area of London. Just imagine how the people of colour (and larger people) would feel about going to that restaurant.

Ramalangadingdong · 18/02/2024 19:14

MoonWoman69 · 18/02/2024 19:03

I agree wholeheartedly with you there! It would be great if people actually took the time to listen to what she has to say, instead of just slagging her off because they don't like her! Which is how it's coming across to me, they don't like her, therefore she has nothing worthwhile to say! I confess, I myself didn't like her in the beginning, but having watched a few of her videos on YouTube, I changed my opinion! She has got some bloody guts, saying the things a lot of people are thinking anyway. But you either like her or you don't, each to their own I say.
As for the Karen cafe, never heard of it, but it doesn't sound like much fun to me! And I hate that a christian name has been used like this. I have a couple of friends called Karen, who are sick to death of it. I'm not even sure how it originated!

I agree with you. Speak your mind like Katie Hopkins so that others know to stay well clear of you. I would rather know that you are that kind of person than have you pretend to be something else. Life is too short to listen to the stupid, puerile crap KH spews. I listened to a couple of her YouTube rants and they were infantile and banal. The sharpest element to them was in their cruelty.

OH, and many people said what you have just said about Hitler. Thank God that many others weren’t taken in. When push comes to shove Britain has a history of fighting back against this kind of rhetoric, and that is something to be proud of.

Tigger1895 · 18/02/2024 19:26

The food is supposedly crap in Karen, I think because their idea is to be insulting, it carries tru to the food quality.

Coatscoatscoast · 18/02/2024 20:06

I don’t understand these places. What if you have an actual issue, like undercooked food or you’ve noticed the toilet’s blocked and everyone’s about to be knee deep in shit? Is there a Karen’s Diner safe word?

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/02/2024 20:11

YABU for wanting to go in the first place
YANBU for wanting to cancel due to Katie bloody Hopkins.
YABU for not thinking that they'd be a good match in the first place as they both seem pretty toxic to me.

MaybeImbad · 18/02/2024 20:13

SherbetDips · 17/02/2024 00:11

Fantastic I love Katie Hopkins. Someone who isn’t afraid to speak her mind and upset the woke brigade.

I’m sorry, I don’t wish to be rude but this made me laugh so much! 🤣🤣

Livelovebehappy · 18/02/2024 20:17

Cancel, or don’t cancel. I don’t think they’ll care much either way. The nature of their ‘act’ isn’t geared I guess to the faint hearted. It’s not something I would come on a forum for advice on - I’m pretty sure you’ve made your mind up already, and people on here aren’t going to sway you.

Pepsi2001 · 18/02/2024 20:18

Weird wanting to be insulted all evening and as for KH she's a despicable woman.

Roselilly36 · 18/02/2024 20:31

Up to you how you spend your money, but personally I can’t think of anything worse than a meal at Karen’s Diner.

NoDought · 18/02/2024 20:35

Katie Hopkins is a Karen so I guess you’re getting prime Karen

Thisisnotarehearsal · 18/02/2024 20:40

imnotgoodenoughtobehere · 17/02/2024 08:13

My name is Karen and because of all the hatred towards people with this name, it has made my life hell. I can’t comment anything on social media without being asked if I want to see the manager. For example, a cute photo of a puppy where I write ‘So adorable!’ and you can guarantee someone will write something like ‘Are you demanding to see the manager’. If you say anything back you get told you are living up to your name. I hate the concept of Karen cafe as it’s feeding dislike for the name Karen. Why the hell did it have to be my name? I already had low self confidence and low self esteem. People who visit the Karen cafes are supporting the name bashing.

I'm so sorry to hear this.

Every Karen I've ever met has been lovely.

I hope this horrible misogynistic trope dies our soon.

puzzledout · 18/02/2024 21:06

NoDought · 18/02/2024 20:35

Katie Hopkins is a Karen so I guess you’re getting prime Karen

🤦‍♀️

DisabledDemon · 18/02/2024 21:24

Sounds dreadful. Never mind the KH relationship, it just sounds ghastly and not something I'd want to spend money on. I know it's your choice but do you really want to spend time in a place where you get insulted?

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 18/02/2024 21:25

coodawoodashooda · 16/02/2024 22:59

Katie Hopkins is alright.

No. No, she's not.

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 18/02/2024 21:31

Charlie2121 · 17/02/2024 06:49

Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson for that matter are attacked because of people’s inability to listen to what they actually say.

They are demonised because of how people characterise them. That is easier for many on the left to do because it prevents them from ever having to respond to the points being made.

As the famous quote from Margaret Thatcher goes “If they attack you personally it means they have not a single political argument left”

That pretty much sums up the left these days.

Do you mean Stephen Yaxley- Lennon?

They're both vile racist pigs.

HTH.

Anele22 · 18/02/2024 21:49

I think you better cancel the lot as you’ve posted the date you’re going and shared it all over a social media site. Or are you hoping to attract the press?

PhoenixStarbeamer · 18/02/2024 22:00

Will never understand why some people find getting seriously insulted fun. People that take young Kids there need reporting to SS.