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Karen’s Diner/Katie Hopkins - cancel?

344 replies

RosaMoline · 16/02/2024 22:56

Quick question:
In the words of Mumsnet, AIBU?
It’s my eldest’s 30th this year, and as a surprise I’ve planned a day out for us on March 17th. We’re going to Hello Kitty cafe, Priscilla the Party and ending up in Karen’s Diner in Islington.
Some of you might know Karen’s from Social media. You basically get insulted and it looks very amusing.
I see from their insta, they’re doing some kind of collaboration with Katie Hopkins in their Manchester and Birmingham restaurants I think.
I am horrified and have left comments to that effect.
I actually feel that I want to cancel, and it’s a shame as it’s something we’d wanted to do for ages.
I however, cannot give my hard earned ££ to an organisation that is giving a platform to a racist right wing Trump supporting bigot.
Am I being unreasonable to cancel our reservation??

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Charlie2121 · 18/02/2024 22:01

baileybrosbuildingandloan · 18/02/2024 21:31

Do you mean Stephen Yaxley- Lennon?

They're both vile racist pigs.

HTH.

What has TR said that is racist?

Orangehair · 18/02/2024 22:40

I love Katie Hopkins she is so funny when she does her Friday evening of Katie’s Arms her online pub, my sense of humour and the Karen’s Diner just sounds like a good laugh for the evening, you know they don’t mean it. Just a good giggle

NoDought · 18/02/2024 22:45

I wasn’t referring to the whole ethics of the term Karen, just if you were describing what the term ‘Karen’ meant to an alien, Katie Hopkins would be a perfect example.

newnamethanks · 18/02/2024 23:02

No orangehair, she does mean it and you are one of the people she's talking about. Oh, how we laughed. She's a cynical grifter.

ErinBell01 · 19/02/2024 00:29

We went to a Karen's Diner pop up in Edinburgh last year and thoroughly enjoyed it. The food, although not much choice and fairly basic was excellent, and your ticket gets you a few drinks. They wouldn't give me a drink to take away with me as you're not allowed to drink in the street, even though the car was at the door. So I said Ok I'll drink it now, and five minutes later I stuck it under my oxter and walked out with it. Bad girl, felt like a student! Yes you get insulted but it's all very funny. There were games and lots of people joined in, didn't see anyone upset, they all seemed to be having a good time. My only gripe was that there were young kids there - two having birthdays! - and it's really not suitable for them, the language is pretty ripe.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 19/02/2024 00:36

My only gripe was that there were young kids there - two having birthdays! - and it's really not suitable for them, the language is pretty ripe
Yeah, sounds great. Not Why are they even letting them in?!

pitsoffashion · 19/02/2024 00:49

Coatscoatscoast · 18/02/2024 20:06

I don’t understand these places. What if you have an actual issue, like undercooked food or you’ve noticed the toilet’s blocked and everyone’s about to be knee deep in shit? Is there a Karen’s Diner safe word?

I’ve wondered this too 🤔

Orangehair · 19/02/2024 01:27

Newnamethanks ,I didn’t mean KP doesn’t mean it I was talking about Karen’s Diner, the rude things they say are just a joke you shouldn’t take them personally. K P definitely says what she means and I agree with most of it

QueenBitch666 · 19/02/2024 01:31

The Karen trope is anything but amusing. Just another misogynist slur. And Hopkins is repugnant beyond belief

QueenBitch666 · 19/02/2024 01:36

RosaMoline · 16/02/2024 23:04

We just thought it would be a fun thing to do. It appeals to our sense of humour.

Classy 🙄

QueenBitch666 · 19/02/2024 01:38

coodawoodashooda · 16/02/2024 22:59

Katie Hopkins is alright.

She's a pro fox hunting cretin. She can get in the fking bin for that alone

QueenBitch666 · 19/02/2024 01:42

imnotgoodenoughtobehere · 17/02/2024 08:13

My name is Karen and because of all the hatred towards people with this name, it has made my life hell. I can’t comment anything on social media without being asked if I want to see the manager. For example, a cute photo of a puppy where I write ‘So adorable!’ and you can guarantee someone will write something like ‘Are you demanding to see the manager’. If you say anything back you get told you are living up to your name. I hate the concept of Karen cafe as it’s feeding dislike for the name Karen. Why the hell did it have to be my name? I already had low self confidence and low self esteem. People who visit the Karen cafes are supporting the name bashing.

Solidarity. While there's breath in my body I'll call out this misogynist shite Flowers

Darlingx · 19/02/2024 04:40

Why bother going to a karen’s cafe when u can get insulted here for free 😂Sorry but just waiting for the pile on OP and its job done for free on here gratis

Darlingx · 19/02/2024 04:43

Coatscoatscoast · Yesterday 20:06

I don’t understand these places. What if you have an actual issue, like undercooked food or you’ve noticed the toilet’s blocked and everyone’s about to be knee deep in shit? Is there a Karen’s Diner safe word?

😂😂😂😂😂

inabubble3 · 19/02/2024 06:08

Have you watched Katie Hopkins recent stuff on Tik Tok etc? It’s a bit different. I hate to say she makes sense

jen337 · 19/02/2024 06:34

Charlie2121 · 17/02/2024 07:21

You kind of proved the point there by labelling everyone who isn’t left wing as far right. It’s ridiculous but is done to demonise anyone who may hold a different viewpoint to you rather than responding to their points.

Labour will win a landslide because people who are not financial net contributors to society will vote for them. Unfortunately that is 80% of the population. They are reliant on the 20% to bankroll them. It’s why we end up in a situation whereby ridiculous policies such as VAT on school fees is heralded as some sort of tactical master stroke.

It won’t end well.

As for genuine far right well the issue you will find is that if the left cry wolf often enough they will soon realise that when a genuine far right party come along their protestations will be ignored and they’ll gain a foothold.

The UK has easily the most left leaning group of political parties imaginable primarily because the masses do not support personal accountability.

Have a look at some local countries and their recent elections. Holland voted in Geert Wilders. The National Front under Le Pen very nearly ended up winning the French presidency. Italy has a far right government.

It is only a matter of time over here too. One or two catastrophic terms in government from Labour and that will open the door to a similar response.

At the moment many people are less pro- Labour and more anti- Conservative. Once people become both anti conservative and anti Labour there will be a big political void to fill and that will be used inevitably by a right wing party.

not financial net contributors to society will vote for them. Unfortunately that is 80% of the population. They are reliant on the 20% to bankroll them.

80% of people are not net contributors to society? You can’t whinge about personal attacks if your flout your stupidity with statements like this. Sad that some people actually believe and try to spread this kind of bullshit. Keep dreaming about your far right utopia.

Charlie2121 · 19/02/2024 07:15

jen337 · 19/02/2024 06:34

not financial net contributors to society will vote for them. Unfortunately that is 80% of the population. They are reliant on the 20% to bankroll them.

80% of people are not net contributors to society? You can’t whinge about personal attacks if your flout your stupidity with statements like this. Sad that some people actually believe and try to spread this kind of bullshit. Keep dreaming about your far right utopia.

That statistic is correct and was confirmed by the ONS.

54% actually receive more cash back in benefits than they pay income tax.

Then of the 46% who don’t, less than half actually pay more income tax than the value of the services they use. That isn’t such a surprising figure if you look at something like schooling costs. If you had 2 children at state school you’d need to earn 70k just to pay enough tax to cover their school costs without paying a penny towards anything else. In reality you would need to earn well over 100k per annum to cover your financial cost to the economy if you have 2 children at school.

Just 20% pay more in income tax than the total value of benefits and services they receive in return.

You need to be earning over 50k every year to break even, and for a couple you both need to be earning this amount each.

Again when the top 1% of society pay a third of all income tax it’s hardly a surprising statistic.

My point stands that an ever decreasing minority are funding an ever increasing majority.

Labour seek to demonise those who bankroll the masses yet fail to mention that society is bankrupt without them.

puzzledout · 19/02/2024 08:15

inabubble3 · 19/02/2024 06:08

Have you watched Katie Hopkins recent stuff on Tik Tok etc? It’s a bit different. I hate to say she makes sense

How so?

inabubble3 · 19/02/2024 08:32

puzzledout · 19/02/2024 08:15

How so?

How does Katie Hopkins make sense? The recent stuff I’ve seen is about the state of the nhs, what the government are up to, government partying in covid etc….. and she’s been quite self deprecating and open to the fact that she’s said some rubbish things in the past and acted like an idiot. I mean maybe she’s had some good spin, maybe she’s reformed but the things she says now are different to what she was saying 10,15 years ago,

puzzledout · 19/02/2024 10:13

@inabubble3 maybe but based on her vile nature previously, I'd not listen to a thing she said now.

Leopards don't change their spots.

She's vile.

inabubble3 · 19/02/2024 10:27

puzzledout · 19/02/2024 10:13

@inabubble3 maybe but based on her vile nature previously, I'd not listen to a thing she said now.

Leopards don't change their spots.

She's vile.

Fair enough. Yup I do have all that in the back of my mind when the vids pop up…. I’ll be honest I take most things that pop up on social media wi th a pinch of salt.

crumblingschools · 19/02/2024 10:29

@inabubble3 does that include things she has recently said about Kate Garraway?

puzzledout · 19/02/2024 10:31

crumblingschools · 19/02/2024 10:29

@inabubble3 does that include things she has recently said about Kate Garraway?

I presume she wax her usual vile self about Kate? What pisses me off is that the bar is set so low for people like KH, that they do a half decent thing and it's, well look they're not so bad.....

Such low standards for some.

puzzledout · 19/02/2024 10:32

@inabubble3 so if you take it with a pinch of salt, why are you defending her?

EmeraldA129 · 19/02/2024 12:43

YANBU to not want to fund Katie Hopkins… but why on earth did you want to find a restaurant that slings insults at you for fun?! That sounds like a horrible birthday treat imo.