XL Bullies to be destroyed now!

[Babycatsarenice]

Sick of these monsters still being on our streets (I never see them muzzled as their irresponsible owners don't comply) and worse still knowing that they are still in homes with children.

AIBU that they should be put to sleep NOW

Let's see a photo of this delightful creature

So we put the dogs to sleep and the owners too?? 😆

So what if the PP has an XL? It's not illegal provided the owner has exempted their pet and is actively keeping within legislation 💁

There are far more good bully owners than bad (contrary to what the scare-mongerers would have you believe)! It's the shite owners that give the dogs a bad name!

I like this idea, and perhaps the same committees should make decisions about who is allowed to reproduce, hold a driving licence or move in with a single mum who has young children.

Easy. We as neighbours should report to the police when we see they have a banned dog.
Police go round to deal with the dog and prosecute the owner for not handing it over.

Pretty soon all the banned dogs will be gone.

YANBU

What frightens me the most is the combination of dog breeds designed for fighting and killing, with antisocial personality disorder owners. I mean... what could go wrong here? 🙄

OP, what impact are you hoping to have, starting a thread like this? I don't mean that nastily - it's a genuine question.

It just seems to me that on these threads people just want to voice their own already firmly held opinions - there doesn't seem much discussion, sharing of ideas, learning from each other or listening going on?

I don't have a violently strong opinion on this issue either way, myself. I have a lovely, responsible friend who has two lovely XLs, and would be sad for her if they were destroyed. Equally I feel immensely for families who have lost loved ones to these dogs, and i do think even one human life is worth millions of dog lives, much as i like dogs.

I'd be interested in us working together as a society to find solutions to this and other problems. But threads like this just seem to descend into a slanging match, rather than constructive discussion with possible positive outcomes?

The thought of putting any healthy animal down, particularly one that hasn’t done anything wrong, is heartbreaking.

Do you feel the same about cows, bison, sheep, pigs, deer, horses, chickens, ducks etc @AntonFeckoff? These are healthy animals that haven’t done anything wrong that are slaughtered daily in their thousands for humans to eat. They are bred by humans for meat (except deer and horses which are still killed and eaten), like dogs are bred as pets. None would exist in the numbers they do if they weren’t. XL bullies wouldn’t exist naturally at all.

The cognitive dissonance about certain animals because we regard them as pets is hilarious and pathetic in equal measure.

Any animal that has the strength and ability to kill a man, let alone a child, should not be wandering the streets or being kept in private homes.

@Babycatsarenice

I agree. It's kinda sad as it's not their fault, but when it's come to the point where GROWN MEN are being killed (and grown women!) something HAS to be done. The 'vicious dogs' of yesteryear like Rottweilers and pitbulls and the like, used to attack and maim children, and occasionally kill a child, but this XL Bully dog has gravitated to adults.

They all need annihilating. I had never even heard of the fucking things until last year. Where on earth are they even from?!

Google Killer Kimbo. There is psychosis in the genes just as there can be in some humans.

Absolutely spot on! Sick of people demonising dogs when it's us humans that are the real issue!
There's always going to be a "devil dog" in the media being hyped - years ago it was Dobermans, then German Shepherds, then Rottweilers, then Staffordshire Bull Terriers, then American Bulldogs and now XL Bulldogs - I'm a dog lover and have been raised around dogs and am the first to say that ALL dogs (in fact all ANIMALS with regards to pets especially) need to be trained and treated with respect and have their needs met - it doesn't matter what breed or size the dog or any animal is, it can still turn if it's unhappy or unwell.
People wishing them all dead make me sick!
My dog was nearly the victim of an XL - but I didn't blame the dog, I blamed the owner who was basically using his dog as a status symbol.

There is nothing you can do, these animals are extremely 'game', ie up for a fight & ready to take on anything. Strong enough to overpower a grown man, when they attack they are in a state of excitment/high arousal (in videos of attacks they are seen wagging their tails) and impervious to pain, if others try to intervene they are spurred on to fight harder.
If it has a collar and you are brave enough you can try to cut off it's air supply so that it releases it's bite. As soon as it regains consciousness it will carry on with the attack.

I’m really surprised at people saying they haven’t ever seen one - I live in just about the most middle class town ever and have seen loads!

@whenlifegivesyoulemonssuckonthem · Today 12:35

My next door neighbour has one.

They are perfectly responsible - registered, chipped, neutered and muzzled in public.

However they are not bringing him up to be a killer and so far is the softest oversized thing I've ever met.

I will be gobsmacked if he ever hurts anyone. Its the upbringing not the dog.

Oh dear. So breathtakingly naive!

But @AddictedToBooks the media doesn't invent these attacks, they exist. People are being killed by XL bullies. Ive read 6 attacks over 10 were of xl in 2022. And the outcome with such a powerful breed is often catastrophic. Your dog was almost attacked! So why not demonise the breed? It is the breed that is the issue, on top of shit owners. I actually do not understand the side that says there is nothing wrong with these dogs, I really don't. And I say this as someone who really loves dogs.

Yes any dog can turn as you say, but a mini goldendoodle cannot maul a grown man to death even if it was animated with the most lethal intentions.

Yep this! ^ The 'any dog can turn' line is one of the most ludicrous and fucking stupid lines I have ever heard. Are people really that clueless and narrow-minded?

Sunak has only demanded self-governing measures. Totally the coward's way out of an emotive issue. He just wants everyone to like him.

Can we put to sleep the owners please?

This.
there will be ‘nightmare’ breed after this.
it was rotties when i were young, then staffies.
It’s crappy owners. This needs to enforced, not putting down health
dogs that having done any harm.
after this it will be another dog.
i say this as a non dog owner.

@LakeTiticaca Harsh!

I have already addressed this in response to another poster who was equally passive aggressive and keen to come across as oh so very clever. 1. I don't eat meat. 2. My post was addressing suicide rates in veterinary medicine, and the quoted text was specifically from the perspective of a vet having to personally euthanise healthy animals.

Any animal that has the strength and ability to kill a man, let alone a child, should not be wandering the streets or being kept in private homes.

Best not venture too far from the UK then, since many countries have animals with these qualities wandering into human habitats on a regular basis. Unless you think they should all be culled for your convenience?

@ImNotReallySpartacus hold a driving licence

We already have driving tests for that.

perhaps the same committees should make decisions about who is allowed to reproduce,

Eugenics isn't acceptable in a democratic society.

or move in with a single mum who has young children.

Now this, I can get behind.

I would argue that "something has to be done" when a dog attacks a child. Children aren't less valuable than adults.

I think there should be a competence test and licence needed to have a dog over a certain height or weight (basically one big enough that a typical adult female couldn't reliably stop it from pulling free when leashed) and part of the condition of the licence is that the dog must be muzzled in public, can only be taken outside by an adult, and can't live in a home with children below a certain age.

Thanks for being polite unlike the person below you, who I choose to ignore apart from to say "no need for swearing and insults to get a view across".

Your points are valid, and yes if that dog had actually managed to attack my Border Collie, then I would probably have had a different view.
The only reason I don't demonise the entire breed is because I have a neighbour who has two XLBs and they have always been really well behaved and lovely and to be frank, I wouldn't like to see them taken off to a vet and euthanised just because of what they are, because I know them and see them daily.
I will say though, as other PPs have wondered why people have chosen XLBs (good question to be fair) as pets, that my neighbour rescued hers as they were dumped as young puppies on a foothpath in our local countrypark that was flanked by a deep river on one side and one of the busiest motorways on the other.

I also really get what you're saying over the statistics and yes, you've made me think, but I still can't find it in myself to demonise the entire breed - I hold my hands up and admit I may well be biased because of the two I know.

I bet what you've seen aren't even xls, because you would have to go over with a tape measure to find this out and I'm assuming you haven't done that

Well, we could add them to the list as well then.