XL Bullies to be destroyed now!

[Babycatsarenice]

Sick of these monsters still being on our streets (I never see them muzzled as their irresponsible owners don't comply) and worse still knowing that they are still in homes with children.

AIBU that they should be put to sleep NOW

Not weighing in on the debate at all but I do wonder if some people have a misconception on what an xl bully is. I was with a friend the other day and she pointed out a dog as a bully - it was a fat staffy!
They are not a breed - the are a specific sub category. The American bully comes in pocket, standard, classic, extreme and XL forms. I know I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between some of those and the legislation relates only to the XL.

I see them quite often as I live in London. Never muzzled. Sometimes on a lead but usually the owner is struggling to keep them on the lead. Why do we have to live in fear of huge great animals bred for fighting?

Indeed. I mentioned on one of the other threads about this that last week I saw what looked ostensibly like a classic XL Bully (the very, very muscular body, the "blocky" head, etc). When it got nearer, I realised it was too short to meet the legislation (I know because my non-XL female dog is 19.5 inches to the withers and this female bully was at least an inch shorter).

Some dogs that meet many of the criteria don't much look like XL Bullies and some that look very much like them are too short and don't meet the criteria. This is why many of us have said the criteria are daft.

@Babycatsarenice I too live in a big city and like I've said I've seen two in two years. I bet what you've seen aren't even xls, because you would have to go over with a tape measure to find this out and I'm assuming you haven't done that 🤦🏻‍♀️

Sorry my bitches, no you are correct they are not human because I sure as hell wouldn't be picking up a humans sh!t on a walk.

Can't see how anybody would want one of these things.

They are fit for only one outcome.

I bet what you've seen aren't even xls, because you would have to go over with a tape measure to find this out and I'm assuming you haven't done that

The ones I have seen are about three times or more the size of a standard staffie, massively overmuscled and have little piggy eyes and cropped ears. And also happened to look exactly like a picture of an XL Bully as helpfully provided by google/assorted news outlets after yet another mauling.
But no, I didn't take a tape measure to any of them. I'm quite fond of my limbs attached to me.

Trying to equate a bite from a small breed as less serious is a non argument. There are far more small dog owners in breach of the dangerous dogs act every day allowing their pets to be dangerously out of control. It doesn't matter what size it is. If it's out of control it's out of control. No dog should be out of control causing injuries full stop regardless of breed.

It IS the “Type” (XLBs aren’t a purebred)
The ones in U.K. are massively inbred and unstable and dog aggressive.
They target children and the vulnerable and pet dogs, cats and horses.

Mentally and emotionally unstable.

Horrible dog type.( Had run in with one on summer- Hopeless owner.

It isn't a non-argument. There is a far more compelling for acting against something that is causing human deaths vs something that isn't. Most dog breeds are not, regardless of size. It is also a temperament issue.
The combination of size, strength, jaw configuration and temperament on these things is a perfect storm of danger.

You are aware some of the stock pictures used by news outlets were not actually XL Bullies? Don't fall for poor journalism. One paper had a picture of a miniature American bulldog the same size as a staffie but a close up head shot so you couldn't tell the difference in size. They don't all have cropped ears either.

Please report this irresponsible person

You are aware some of the stock pictures used by news outlets were not actually XL Bullies?

Please show me pictures of actual XL Bullies then.

It is a non argument. It's also dismissive of the real problem. Comparing one bite as less serious than another is the reason we have thousands of smaller dogs out of control. It isn't cute and it isn't funny. Do you actually know what breed has the most bites against humans in the UK? A Jack Russel is number 1, bull terrier is number 3. But that's ok eh.....the next person who says 'its ok he's friendly' is going to get a kick in the fanny. You've been warned 🤯

What am I your personal assistant?

Exactly this. The owner of the dogs that killed the grandmother so recently had been heard to say that he wasn’t having anyone telling him what to do with his own fucking dogs.

I should imagine that that sort of attitude is not at all untypical.
’Soft’ measures - that rely on people obeying the rules - simply aren’t going to work.

What am I your personal assistant?

No, you told me that the pictures I see online are not actually of XL Bullies. I'm suggesting you show me what they actually look like if you think the images on google are a false representation.

Destroy them. Shoot them if it costs too much for euthanasia. I love dogs normally but enough is enough, we must put humans first. It is NOT just bad owners - these things are inherently dangerous - it is in their genes.

It is a non argument. It's also dismissive of the real problem. Comparing one bite as less serious than another is the reason we have thousands of smaller dogs out of control. It isn't cute and it isn't funny. Do you actually know what breed has the most bites against humans in the UK? A Jack Russel is number 1, bull terrier is number 3. But that's ok eh.....the next person who says 'its ok he's friendly' is going to get a kick in the fanny. You've been warned

Okay now do statistics for actual deaths. Because I'd rather have a nasty nip than have my jugular torn out, as it happens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

I don't disagree that all dogs should be under control and well-trained, btw. But I'm far more concerned about the ones that could actually kill me.

The majority of news and google pictures aren't even American bully's, they could even be bothered to find real pictures. Also a lot of them don't have cropped ears and not all are muscular. Mine has ears and looks like a seal 🦭 don't believe everything you see on the news.

Wrong. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kimbo-owners-horrifying-explanation-xl-30966307

The problem is that these dogs are dosed with steroids to make them bigger and aggressive.

The dog should be assessed for evidence of being given steroids and, if evidence of steroids is found, the dog should be PTS and its owner banned from keeping animals for life.

Banning a breed just means that the shit-for-brains thugs who want a status symbol instead of a pet will choose a new breed.

Not really bothered about one knocking me over if it can't bite.

You'll care when you're eighty with osteoporosis.

More than anything the owners need protecting and most won’t even realise that- they probably trust their pet/s. Even if every XLB is muzzled in public they won’t be in tier homes and due to their tendencies to become aggressive out of the blue the owners and their families are the ones most at risk.

I think the law should be that you cannot own a XLB if a child/ children live at the same
address

tier- there

Jack Russels might bite more frequently but they are small and can be controlled by a lead, kick or just moving them away. Its not at all comparable to what these dogs can do.
Those of us walking children in the street have no idea what to do in the event of a dog attack from one of these as there seems to be little you can do.

You have an XLB?