XL Bullies to be destroyed now!

[Babycatsarenice]

Sick of these monsters still being on our streets (I never see them muzzled as their irresponsible owners don't comply) and worse still knowing that they are still in homes with children.

AIBU that they should be put to sleep NOW

I will be gobsmacked if he ever hurts anyone.

I am sure that will be a great comfort to his disfigured/ disabled/ dead victim.

If my children ran up to, in front of, around, strangers, sniffing at them, I'm quite sure a chuckle and an "it's ok, she won't bite, she just wants to play", would not be acceptable.

Don't forget jumping on them, wiping their muddy shoes on these strangers' clothes, spitting on them. Just being "friendly", of course! How adorable. 🤨 Growling at them if they object to this, or randomly running at them from 50 metres away and trying to bite them. Defecating in public areas.

Pretty sure nobody would be too pleased. It's completely bizarre that anybody thinks other people should have to tolerate any of that so that they can have a pet, before you even get into the dangerous ones.

They’re not monsters. Just like Rottweilers, German shepherds and staffies before them, they are the status symbol dog of shitheads, people who’ve got no clue how to care for a dog let alone be responsible for one. The difference with these is they are so big, muscular and strong, and their jaws are so large and strong, that the damage they can do is much more serious.

And nobody needs to own a fighting dog that can do that much damage when pretty much every dog owner admits that you can never trust a dog not to turn, even one that hasn't been bred to be more likely to do this, and lethal if it does.

I think the government should go one step further and just ban dogs completely. No more dogs jumping up at strangers, no more attacks, no more dog shit all over the pavements, no more dogs in cafes. Just get rid of the lot.

Some people get them because they like them. They like how they look, they like the nature of the individual animal - so said a dog warden who once had two of them. Some get them for protection, because they live in a well dodgy area, and it makes them feel safer. Some get them to look tough and cool. Some get them to breed. Some get them to fight. Obviously a huge spectrum of reasons, raising from benign to worrying as hell and dodgy as all get out.

None of these "reasons" are an acceptable reason to put other people in danger. Being part of society means trade offs between the rights of others and your own freedoms. Sometimes the impingement on other people's freedom/ safety is too great dor you to just do whatever the hell you like, hence we have laws. The case for banning dogs like this when there is no compelling reason anybody needs to have one and the downsides of them doing so are so horrific isn't even finely balanced, it's a no brainer, to anybody with a brain, which I suppose highlights that fundamental explanation of why a specific subset of people still argue the contrary.

You don't know someone's situation as to why they may treat their animals like their kids so leave us to it like we leave you to your children.

Jesus Christ. Animals are not comparable to children. Whatever your "situation" this is just absurd. Get a grip.

Exterminate every single last one of them.

Same goes for therapy, PAT, police or guide dogs? What a silly comment 🙄

THIS is a huge part of the problem.
People treating dogs like children.

They are Dogs, they need 'discipline' like children do {Routine, regular exercise, training to be polite and nice to be around} but the whole nauseating ''Fur baby''
''Pet mom'' ''Pet parent'' thing is ridiculous.

I don't want someone 's 'furkid' leaping all over me in the park, mothers of toddlers don't want 'Pissfingers' the ''She's a rescyoo!'' snatching food out of their child's hand in a café..
Nor do we want our well behaved, quiet dogs pestered by your sex crazed Giant Poodle.

No, animals are not comparable to children. That doesn't alter the fact that some us much prefer them to children (which doesn't mean we all treat them like children btw).

For every annoying dog I've ever known I have known many, many, more annoying kids. Maybe the government should ban kids! Ridiculous, yes - but so is your suggestion.

I would cheerfully ban the majority of them from cafes (kids, not dogs).

For every annoying dog I've ever known I have known many, many, more annoying kids
ANOTHER person who sees dogs as directly analogous with children!
I notice no one says "dogs can be annoying but trainspotters/pidgeon fanciers are worse". The comparison is always with children, implying that they [in the mind of dog a enthusiast} belong in the same category, or are competing for the same slot in society.

I like dogs but… children are THE most vulnerable group in society and many of them can’t advocate for themselves, so I consider it a HUGE red flag when people prefer animals over children

Constant threads on this. This isnt aibu its spouting your stupid opinion and I can bet you're just another wannabe breed expert, that knows f all about dogs and just accuses people or having xl bullies when the dog is another breed.

Ever think maybe the dogs you allegedly see with no muzzle ARE NOT xl bullies? Hint why they have no muzzle.

Anytime I seen a xl bully, which is an xl bully they have been muzzled.

Time to stop curtain twitching and meet some friends if you have any

Children understand adults and can communicate with speech unlike dogs, yet a lot of people can't control their kids, yet its expected to control an animal that doesn't understand human language.

If someone's child kills another, should the parents go to jail? Me personally I think so, if the child is under a certain age.

@Babycatsarenice

the legislation has been put in place. It's been 14 days, on what planet did you think it would all have been sorted in 14 days.

you have the legislation in place, you have the channels to report it.

whinging it hasn't worked, not bothering to report dogs that have irresponsible owners.

what do you want? Specialist police to wander around your neighbourhood killing dogs you don't like the look of??

well it's not going to happen, so DO something (other than start goady threads on MN. Use the tools you've been given.

How do you think it affects the mental health of the nurses, surgeons and auxiliary staff at the hospitals nursing people that have been torn apart by these dogs and trying to put them back together?

How do you think it affects the mental health of the victims (those that live to tell the tale) and the victims families and friends? How about the general public that don't feel safe or that their children are safe in their communities? What about the mental health of people whose neighbours have these dogs?

It is right that no-one has to put an animal down - it is their choice to do it or not. I expect a lot of people would be willing to do it for the right price.

Quote re dog attacks: "there are things we can do to minimise the chances of it happening to us."

Yes so in the recent case of a child being attacked in the flats we can avoid and make our children avoid moving around near our own homes.

In the case of a child attacked by a dog on a play date - we can avoid our children going to homes with these dogs.

In the case of the dog going wild and attacking adults randomly near a petrol station - we can avoid getting out of our cars and moving around whenever possible.

In the case of the dogs that have got into their neighbours gardens and killed or savaged them - we can avoid using our own gardens - particularly if we know our neighbours or people nearby have these dogs.

In the case of the dog walker killed - businesses e.g. dog walkers/groomers/kennels can refuse to take these dogs.

In the case of owners being attacked and killed in the home or their children we can avoid owning these dogs.

Why should people have to change their perfectly normal behaviour moving around their homes and communities in order to avoid dangerous dogs? Get rid of them and allow people to move around feeling safe without having to "do things" to avoid a dog attack happening to them.

Quote " Likely cause they have a certain look and posture."

... or perhaps it's because they make up less than 1% of dogs and 50% of fatal dog attacks?

I don't think you would have the same thoughts on the acceptable level of fatal dog attacks if it was your child that had just been mauled or killed.

The acceptable level of fatal dog attacks is zero. The number of fatal dog attacks has been rising with 50% of them attributed to these Bully breeds that make up only 1% of dogs. That is why action has to be taken.

And note how many incidences there have been of annoying children mauling random strangers to death in public...

Zero.

For every annoying dog I've ever known I have known many, many, more annoying kids. Maybe the government should ban kids! Ridiculous, yes - but so is your suggestion.

I would cheerfully ban the majority of them from cafes (kids, not dogs).

Children are necessary for the continuation of the society that you purportedly belong to, whether you have a bizarre distaste for them or not. You will have no food, electricity, healthcare, or anything else if children are not produced, who then grow into adults so out of basic self-interest you should be happy people have children and go to all of that effort to raise them when clearly you think they shouldn't exist. 😵‍💫🙄 Dogs serve no such purpose. The rest of society gains nothing from you having a dog. They should not be subjected to any danger, cost, or even inconvenience as a result of your choice of pet. And aside from all of that, you are very messed up if you do not understand the difference between an animal and a human and why protecting kids from being mauled is more important than how attached you may be to your "fur babies" 🤢

the legislation has been put in place. It's been 14 days, on what planet did you think it would all have been sorted in 14 days.

It would have been sorted out in not much longer than that if the legislation had been drafted properly, i.e. that all of these unnatural abominations should be put to sleep, no exemptions. Any of them reported should be PTS and owners who still have them after the ban prosecuted. All owners of any dog subject to strict licences and all non-compliance means dog confiscated, PTS and prosecution. Licences costing a lot so that they cover the actual cost, collectively, to society of people owning dogs.

So much hysteria on this thread. Over 30,000 XL bullies have been registered and granted exemption certificates, which goes to show only the tiniest of minorities cause problems.

No. It "just goes to show" that:

a) there will be many more maulings and deaths because of shitty people who still keep these dogs as "pets"; and

b) there are a very large number of utterly stupid people in the UK who will never be decent members of society.

I would be dead now if it weren't for my cat. I had a very difficult childhood, no family and was in a DV relationship. I'd never experienced pure, uncomplicated and unconditional love until I met my lovely boy. My life was turned around because of him. It's a shame some people can't accept the bond some people have with their animals and have to be so unpleasant about it.

Pretty sure nobody objected to you having a cat. Cats don't generally maul and kill random strangers. There are plenty of pets available that people can choose the keep that don't negatively impact other people's lives.