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AIBU bringing up awkward conversation with DP on long car journey?

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LovingZelda · 14/02/2024 00:46

I really need some advice on how I can talk to my DP.

He refuses point blank to talk about feelings and emotions. Every time I question the future of our relationship (together 7 years) he will say 'everything is fine'.

Last summer he had a period of depression and uncertainty about the future of our relationship, triggered by me being on a girls weekend away and him feeling lonely as his very few mates were all busy. He became very distant from me and even started to look elsewhere (which I only discovered months later) but stopped all that, said he'd made a really stupid mistake and stayed with me even though I had (understandably) raged and raged about him potentially cheating. It took me a long time to build trust again and even now part of me hates him for jeopardising our relationship and hurting me so, so deeply.
I'm very bitter and it shattered my confidence and self esteem.

He's a total closed door if I bring up anything about emotions, feelings etc and gets angry, he never used to be like this, he used to be tender and sweet but now I feel like I put in all the effort of making things nice and he shuts down if the conversation goes anywhere near emotions

He is very hardworking, kind, generous and thoughtful and tells me he loves me and we do have tender, close, times, but I'm getting angry at his refusal to discuss anything beyond practicalities and joking around.

Tonight we have a long drive up to Scotland (yes, ironically Valentine's evening!), just the two of us so I know I'll have a captive audience and he won't be able to 'escape' from the conversation - any tips on how to broach deeper issues with him without angering him or am I flogging a dead horse? The past indiscretions and his wanting to find someone else eat me up and I'm so desperately unhappy I want to confront and resolve but he just says I should have 'moved on' long ago and there's nothing to worry about. I get more and more frustrated with his refusal to discuss matters of the heart. We had one counselling session when everything blew up at which he cried but then he refused to go to any more which I think is unfair on me and my recovery.

OP posts:
Testina · 17/02/2024 08:40

Keep in mind that his reaction when he’s stuck away from home with you and wants to talk you round would be exactly the same.

So actions not words. Is he going to sort out the therapy?

T1Dmama · 17/02/2024 11:35

I hope he goes through with it all @LovingZelda .. think it needs booking ASAP & if you need to set a time frame that if things haven’t improved by say July, then you need to rethink the whole relationship and no more time on it

DreadPirateRobots · 17/02/2024 12:17

Wow. I'm glad it went well, I honestly didn't have high hopes.

I would definitely watch out for him to actually do something about it now though. Like look up a therapist and book one and attend. It's a long way from saying he'll do it to pacify you to actually buckling down and doing the work to try and make your relationship better.

SquirrelsAssemble · 17/02/2024 13:42

As above.
Im happy you feel better & he was receptive.

Now HE (not you) needs to actually arrange the counselling. Any longer than 2 weeks to book the appointment I'd be acknowledging he has no intention of going and his sweet talk was BS.

I hope he steps up for you.

Toptotoe · 17/02/2024 14:57

That’s such good news. I hope the therapy helps .

Bikesandbees · 18/02/2024 15:08

Glad the chat went well!

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 20/02/2024 11:49

Good news that he was happy to discuss it and had been thinking about it. Glad you resolved it OP.

Nantescalling · 20/02/2024 15:59

Testina · 14/02/2024 11:02

Bloody hell.
Get an audio self help book on dumping arseholes who shatter your self esteem by treating you like shit and cheating on you. Listen to it on the journey.
Dump him on arrival and have a nice little trip away without him.
Get train home. (or leave him to, if it’s your car).

Better still - just don’t bloody go!

I’ll admit I’m only 95% sympathetic. Understanding that life is complicated and your childhood / boiled frogs blah blah blah.. but 5% of me thinks “stop choosing this!!!”

Gather your strength. Dump him.

That podcast would be sensational. Otherwise a self instruction tape on emotional literacy.

Nantescalling · 20/02/2024 16:48

LovingZelda · 17/02/2024 06:08

Update: well I did broach the subject a couple of hours into the journey when we stopped for coffee.
He was surprisingly receptive and apologized for his previous gaslighting, admitting that he finds it really hard to open up and still feels guilty for his past actions, and confirmed he has never cheated on me in all the time we have been together.
He told me how much I mean to him and to my absolute surprise suggested therapy to get us back on track. It's almost as if he's read this thread and taken on board the criticisms.
Driving back now and in a much better place mentally. Thank you everyone x
P.s am booking another trip with the girls and a weekend in Paris for the two of us :)

So good to hear you have had a heart to heart. I think the therapy part is the most important and hope he really meant he thought it would help. Be strong !

akasalishsea · 06/05/2024 18:09

LovingZelda · 14/02/2024 00:46

I really need some advice on how I can talk to my DP.

He refuses point blank to talk about feelings and emotions. Every time I question the future of our relationship (together 7 years) he will say 'everything is fine'.

Last summer he had a period of depression and uncertainty about the future of our relationship, triggered by me being on a girls weekend away and him feeling lonely as his very few mates were all busy. He became very distant from me and even started to look elsewhere (which I only discovered months later) but stopped all that, said he'd made a really stupid mistake and stayed with me even though I had (understandably) raged and raged about him potentially cheating. It took me a long time to build trust again and even now part of me hates him for jeopardising our relationship and hurting me so, so deeply.
I'm very bitter and it shattered my confidence and self esteem.

He's a total closed door if I bring up anything about emotions, feelings etc and gets angry, he never used to be like this, he used to be tender and sweet but now I feel like I put in all the effort of making things nice and he shuts down if the conversation goes anywhere near emotions

He is very hardworking, kind, generous and thoughtful and tells me he loves me and we do have tender, close, times, but I'm getting angry at his refusal to discuss anything beyond practicalities and joking around.

Tonight we have a long drive up to Scotland (yes, ironically Valentine's evening!), just the two of us so I know I'll have a captive audience and he won't be able to 'escape' from the conversation - any tips on how to broach deeper issues with him without angering him or am I flogging a dead horse? The past indiscretions and his wanting to find someone else eat me up and I'm so desperately unhappy I want to confront and resolve but he just says I should have 'moved on' long ago and there's nothing to worry about. I get more and more frustrated with his refusal to discuss matters of the heart. We had one counselling session when everything blew up at which he cried but then he refused to go to any more which I think is unfair on me and my recovery.

Sounds like you already know you are flogging a dead horse but don't want to stop because of convenience to you to persist in that rather than do the difficult work of going after the life you want without it including you trying to change someone to ease your way. You know exactly who is is and so does he. he hasn't lied about who he is but everytime you expect more of him, you deny who he is which is dishonest on your part. If you set him free he is free to be himself and perhaps someone who wants less emotional intimacy and doesn't care about infidelities will find him just their cup of tea. Unfortunately this is all on you and you even though you are desperately not wanting to acknowledge that. I suspect that you believe he can change because you reveled in the honeymoon period when most of us put on blinders and our true love is near perfect though they, like us, are not. It would be like hooking up with a person who hums to themselves all day, overlooking that and then yelling at the person for being a hummer. he is who he is and you either settle for that in order to stay conveniently tied to safe misery or you split and face whatever uncertain future that means. If you stay you have to stop making him your whipping post and love and enjoy him for who he is and what he can give you, however limited that is or you will just be destined to be bitter. He has made it clear to you he is somewhat happy with where things are, is prone to depression, may want out himself but doesn't know how to get out because he to is prone to avoiding difficult emotional work. He actually sounds like a version of you within the relationship just manifesting in a different way. You both want each other to be happy with what you want for yourselves instead of finding a partner with whom you share those things from the onset and forge a life together. Perhaps sitting down and sharing honest thoughts, wants, fears, desires without any shame or blame and with the intention of setting each other free out of love and encouragement to help the other reach personal goals can help you both achieve what you want with or without the other. .

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