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To not pick up dog poo...

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Moonfishstar · 13/02/2024 05:54

... when in a quiet forest, but to flick it with a stick into dense undergrowth instead?

I don't see any issue with this, but I've got a feeling lots will disagree with me, so I wanted to get some other opinions.

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oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:10

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:06

Yeah. If you have kids, you'd know kids like to crawl around under trees, make dens in trees, etc.

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If you know forests you’d also know that the footfall isn’t the same and the edge of the paths are pretty fucking dangerous… I’m not talking about the edge of the gruffalo trail.

I still can’t get over you thinking driving fast on a country lane is just as dangerous as doing it in a built up area

coronafiona · 14/02/2024 22:10

Eww. Pick it up.

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:11

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:07

You don't explain your side of the debate though. I'm answering you. You are just saying I don't agree and clicking emojis.

That’s not actually true!

Kendodd · 14/02/2024 22:12

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:01

Of course it has the same impact. The same health risk remains whether it's in a forest or outside a school. Bit like speeding in a country lane vs speeding in a built up area. Same risk exists but different setting.

I'm sorry but the same health risk does not remain. Liklihood is a factor added into the matrix. Outside a school, likelihood a child will come across it is high. In the woods, in a patch of a load of nettles, in the middle of effin nowhere, likelihood a child will come across it is very low.

Barquentine · 14/02/2024 22:13

SabrinaThwaite · 14/02/2024 21:57

Hormone use in dairy cattle was banned in the EU (so including the UK) in 1988.

We exempted ourselves because as always the uk put profit over health. The uk exempted themselves all the time from all sorts of policies…..we had special privileges
It was banned for use on dairy cattle to increase yield in 1999/ 2000

It could still be in imported meat as its still used in lice treatments and so on

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:14

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:10

If you know forests you’d also know that the footfall isn’t the same and the edge of the paths are pretty fucking dangerous… I’m not talking about the edge of the gruffalo trail.

I still can’t get over you thinking driving fast on a country lane is just as dangerous as doing it in a built up area

Again didn't answer my point....

Of course driving fast in a country lane is as dangerous as driving fast in a built up area. You hit a car, or a pedestrian, in a country lane it's the same result as doing so in a built up area. Did you get your driving license free in a pack of corn flakes in the 1970s or something?

Kendodd · 14/02/2024 22:15

As I asked a while ago, has their been any actual research on this?

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:16

Kendodd · 14/02/2024 22:12

I'm sorry but the same health risk does not remain. Liklihood is a factor added into the matrix. Outside a school, likelihood a child will come across it is high. In the woods, in a patch of a load of nettles, in the middle of effin nowhere, likelihood a child will come across it is very low.

The risk still exists though does it not? Risk judgement v laziness. Ah fuck it, no one's watching can't be bothered sort of mindset.

Kendodd · 14/02/2024 22:19

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:16

The risk still exists though does it not? Risk judgement v laziness. Ah fuck it, no one's watching can't be bothered sort of mindset.

Can you please link to evidence of any child ever getting sick from dog poo in a patch of nettles in a forest, in the middle of nowhere.

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:23

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:14

Again didn't answer my point....

Of course driving fast in a country lane is as dangerous as driving fast in a built up area. You hit a car, or a pedestrian, in a country lane it's the same result as doing so in a built up area. Did you get your driving license free in a pack of corn flakes in the 1970s or something?

But the likelihood is less. Have you never read a basic risk assessment?

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:23

Kendodd · 14/02/2024 22:19

Can you please link to evidence of any child ever getting sick from dog poo in a patch of nettles in a forest, in the middle of nowhere.

Oh here we go. The go find a video or a quote to discount a possible scenario argument. Why not just exercise the same effort and caution to pick up dog shit in a forest as you would in a built up area? Is it laziness, or the shame of being spotted in a built up area that is absent in a forest?

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:23

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:14

Again didn't answer my point....

Of course driving fast in a country lane is as dangerous as driving fast in a built up area. You hit a car, or a pedestrian, in a country lane it's the same result as doing so in a built up area. Did you get your driving license free in a pack of corn flakes in the 1970s or something?

What point have I not answered!… It’s all about the likelihood!

Prunesqualler · 14/02/2024 22:24

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:14

Again didn't answer my point....

Of course driving fast in a country lane is as dangerous as driving fast in a built up area. You hit a car, or a pedestrian, in a country lane it's the same result as doing so in a built up area. Did you get your driving license free in a pack of corn flakes in the 1970s or something?

Speed limits are higher in country lanes so it looks like highways disagree with the potential threat.

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:24

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:16

The risk still exists though does it not? Risk judgement v laziness. Ah fuck it, no one's watching can't be bothered sort of mindset.

No!! The risk is less because the likelihood is less! Are you thick?

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:25

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:23

But the likelihood is less. Have you never read a basic risk assessment?

You'd be the first to cry if your relative or friend go mowed down walking down a country lane by a speeding driver. You could always wave that risk assessment at their funeral I suppose.

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:25

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:23

Oh here we go. The go find a video or a quote to discount a possible scenario argument. Why not just exercise the same effort and caution to pick up dog shit in a forest as you would in a built up area? Is it laziness, or the shame of being spotted in a built up area that is absent in a forest?

It’s the fact that the risk is lower.

Theminer · 14/02/2024 22:27

Kendodd · 14/02/2024 22:12

I'm sorry but the same health risk does not remain. Liklihood is a factor added into the matrix. Outside a school, likelihood a child will come across it is high. In the woods, in a patch of a load of nettles, in the middle of effin nowhere, likelihood a child will come across it is very low.

The direct risk of a child touching/ingesting it is obviously reduced, but the risk of disease spreading to wildlife etc isn’t.

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:28

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:24

No!! The risk is less because the likelihood is less! Are you thick?

You are entirely basing your argument upon a risk assessment. Are you an expert of who frequents that forest? What they do in that forest? The same risk exists. Just pick it up as you'd usually do and cut out the risk altogether. Anyone who attends risk assessment training knows the best course is to cut out the risk altogether.

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:28

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:25

You'd be the first to cry if your relative or friend go mowed down walking down a country lane by a speeding driver. You could always wave that risk assessment at their funeral I suppose.

This is a bollox point. Of course I’d be upset. But it’s very unlikely to happen. However if you speed through a build up area you have a higher chance of hitting someone… which is why
speed limits exist.

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:30

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:28

You are entirely basing your argument upon a risk assessment. Are you an expert of who frequents that forest? What they do in that forest? The same risk exists. Just pick it up as you'd usually do and cut out the risk altogether. Anyone who attends risk assessment training knows the best course is to cut out the risk altogether.

Yes I am! I assess risk for outdoor activities, which includes writing a risk assessment on each venue

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:31

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:28

You are entirely basing your argument upon a risk assessment. Are you an expert of who frequents that forest? What they do in that forest? The same risk exists. Just pick it up as you'd usually do and cut out the risk altogether. Anyone who attends risk assessment training knows the best course is to cut out the risk altogether.

It is nigh on impossible to cut risk all together in most situations outdoors. Which is why risk assessments exist

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:31

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:28

This is a bollox point. Of course I’d be upset. But it’s very unlikely to happen. However if you speed through a build up area you have a higher chance of hitting someone… which is why
speed limits exist.

Can't be bothered to pick up dog shit. Thinks speeding down country lanes doesn't have the same consequences as driving in a built up area. Both purely based upon ones 'risk assessment'....I win this moral argument hands down.

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:32

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:31

It is nigh on impossible to cut risk all together in most situations outdoors. Which is why risk assessments exist

Yeah it is. Pick up the dog shit.

oOmoonhaOo · 14/02/2024 22:32

Emily1583 · 14/02/2024 22:28

You are entirely basing your argument upon a risk assessment. Are you an expert of who frequents that forest? What they do in that forest? The same risk exists. Just pick it up as you'd usually do and cut out the risk altogether. Anyone who attends risk assessment training knows the best course is to cut out the risk altogether.

If you want to cut risk for yourself from that forest all together then don’t enter that forest.

This has become bloody ridiculous and apparent that I’m arguing with someone who does not have a clue!

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