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Do I need to up my game? (Sorry it’s a long one)

113 replies

ChasingStar · 10/02/2024 22:05

DH and I are going through a really shitty patch. I’m falling into that hole of feeling really awful about myself and wondering if maybe it is my problem, but I don’t think it is.

This evening we had a really long argument which was started off by the fact he came home and there was washing up in the sink. We ended up cycling through several points of contention. The main issue is this:

He feels like when he gets home the house should be clean, quiet, calm. And that I should aim to facilitate this.

I work 7-2 three days of the week and have a day working 9-5.30 when my mum has our kids in the evening. I then pick up our children (DS2 & DS4) and get home for 4pm., obviously later on a late day. They are usually so tired from school/nursery that they basically whinge and scream and cry for half an hour while I try and get their dinner ready etc. Then I get them in the bath, pyjamas etc. I am usually just about getting to cleaning the kitchen and putting toys away when DH gets home. He always storms about saying it’s not a nice atmosphere. To me it feels like he’s walked in the door and made a fuss about having to do something, when I’ve not stopped all day. It was fine, and he’s created the unpleasant atmosphere not walked into one. It then makes reading/homework/bedtime really glum feeling and just a generally low mood to end the day on.

I usually do something out and about with the younger child when he has a day off nursery so we don’t mess the house up.

I have stopped cooking dinner for DH because most of the time he doesn’t eat it. If there’s leftovers from what I have with the kids I leave it in the pot but he doesn’t usually eat it and makes himself something else. He says because I haven’t cleaned the kitchen straight away it delays his dinner. (I usually haven’t cleaned the kitchen straight away because I’m trying to get two children covered in beans into the bath quickly and bath time is a complete shit show in our house”

I try and prioritise quality time with the kids even if it is messy like baking or building dens- he puts them in front of an iPad a lot of the time and is constantly telling them to sit down. If I say “X did this silly thing today” he laments how I let them behave like that and that they aren’t like that if he’s in charge

I’ll admit I’m quite relaxed about most things whereas he can be uptight - eg. He would never let the kids play in the dirt or do baking because of mess. I’m a “we can always clean it” person.

I told him sometimes I do feel really overwhelmed- the children are usually much naughtier for me and ill admit I do sometimes have a “let them get on with it” approach because I feel that especially the older child should be learning to make good choices over being reprimanded constantly. Essentially I’m trying really hard not to be a massive helicopter now our older child is at school.

his response? “It’s not my fault you’re incapable of supervising them properly” - which really hurt.

lately I’ve been trying to be more firm - if he’s being a dick I’ll tell him. His response is to tell me that I’m being negative, or I’m taking his constructive criticism the wrong way. I think he doesn’t like being told straight (which is what he prides himself on doing but obviously can’t take it)

he does all the morning wake ups, he’s more of a morning person and gets up to do the children’s breakfast. But in contrast he will go to bed early and I will stay up later getting on top of washing, doing packed lunches etc so I personally feel like that’s quite fair. He does take the kids out at the weekend, usually to his parents so I can get in top of cleaning, shopping etc. We do family stuff, clubs etc at the weekend too. I still feels like I’m never doing enough and sometimes he will question what I’ve done or how I’ve done it, eg. Feel the floor like he doesn’t believe me when I’ve mopped.

How can we fix this? Am I a hot mess and need to step up? I know I’m not perfect but the way he is at the moment I feel like I’m under pressure all the time to please him. Honestly? I just feel like a failure because I feel like I put everything into our family life.

YABU - he’s right, you need to sort yourself out and make more of an effort for him.

YANBU - family life is messy and he’s being too uptight

OP posts:
Tinkerbyebye · 10/02/2024 22:07

You take a few days of work and go away, leave him with the kids and he can do it all like you

SausageRollsWithMustard · 10/02/2024 22:09

He wants a clean, quiet, calm house to walk into after work?

Don't we all.

He sounds awful to.live with OP.

ChasingStar · 10/02/2024 22:10

Tinkerbyebye · 10/02/2024 22:07

You take a few days of work and go away, leave him with the kids and he can do it all like you

Edited

I don’t even claim to do it all. It just feels like all wouldn’t be good enough still.

and when he does look after the children for an afternoon he seems to think he’s done it all so much better than me

OP posts:
ChasingStar · 10/02/2024 22:10

SausageRollsWithMustard · 10/02/2024 22:09

He wants a clean, quiet, calm house to walk into after work?

Don't we all.

He sounds awful to.live with OP.

well exactly. I would love that but… life!

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Cocacolacarrie · 10/02/2024 22:10

My ex and I used to argue about a lot of stuff like this. Ultimately it came down to the fact that we were not compatible as two people who could live together and raise children together.

ChasingStar · 10/02/2024 22:12

And I don’t want this to seem like a “woe is me” thing because if admit it’s full on but I live family life and the chaos etc. I am generally cheerful, positive, outgoing. I just feel like he thinks I’m a bit useless and it’s like he wants me (and the kids) to be someone else

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Phineyj · 10/02/2024 22:12

But why he is the boss? He's behaving more like a manager than a husband.

I take it they are 2 and 4? They're very little. Of course tea/bath time is chaotic. It's normal.

What are his own parents like?

goingdownfighting · 10/02/2024 22:13

Perhaps you should offer to work his full time hours and he goes down to 'part time' and take the responsibility?

I offer this to my husband often yet he never takes me up on it.

Getthethrowonthesofa · 10/02/2024 22:14

God he sounds appalling a controlling bullying wet wipe. I really think unless you’re going to end this and I suspect you won’t, then you need to sit this srsehole down and tell him straight how it’s going to be.

WingsofRain · 10/02/2024 22:15

He feels the floor to see if you have mopped it?!
He is treating you like an unpaid skivvy.

ChasingStar · 10/02/2024 22:17

Yes they are 2 and 4

his own parents are lovely but he grew up with the mummy homemaker/dad worker upbringing and he went to boarding school from 11-18. His mum is basically Mary poppins in DHs eyes. I’ll admit she is bloody brilliant at everything, elegant, gorgeous. He’s already told me no one could ever live up to her …. but I’m not trying to as I’m not his mum! (although I do get on well with her)

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HungryandIknowit · 10/02/2024 22:18

It doesn't sound like you're compatible. He also sounds terrible to live with. It sounds miserable.

ChasingStar · 10/02/2024 22:18

I think he has these rose coloured glasses that everything was so perfect in his childhood. But our kids are not him and we are not our parents

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SausageRollsWithMustard · 10/02/2024 22:20

I'm not sure I could live with someone who checks the floor to see if I've mopped it.

He thinks you're his servant and treats you like an untrustworthy one at that.

Horrible.

Lion400 · 10/02/2024 22:22

‘..and sometimes he will question what I’ve done or how I’ve done it, eg. Feel the floor like he doesn’t believe me when I’ve mopped’

Sleeping with the Enemy vibes. He’s a horrible man :(

Scarletttulips · 10/02/2024 22:24

I hope it’s put you off sec and further children!

If he wants a clean house show him where the cleaning fluid is!

Kids are only little for such a short time. We reduce our standards to spend quality time with them.

Letting them get messy is good for them - natural germs in dirt, they are less fussy eaters for playing with food.

And it’s not ‘your’ mess it’s generally ‘his’ kids mess - change your words.

JustJessi · 10/02/2024 22:26

Sounds like you’ve got two very separate lives. You get up and different times, go to bed at different times, don’t eat together, don’t parent together. Sorry, I hope what I’m saying isn’t a shock to you, but I don’t see where the relationship is between you and your H. To top it off, when you do see him, he is very unkind. Would it be nicer that he didn’t come home?

Snowsp · 10/02/2024 22:28

Oh op! My sister is recently seperatated from a husband like this. Your husband is very controlling and I feel you probably don't even realise all the ways you pander to him.

It's not like you arevworking in a very part time job so have alot of time at home. Even if you does he does he get his way? Who made him boss? The idea you should facilitate a tidy calm home is insane.

Has he alws been like this?

Snowsp · 10/02/2024 22:32

Just read your updates. My sister's ex puts his childhood and upbringing on a pedestal too. He also says stuff about their children being badly behaved, when they aren't it's just normal kid stuff.

One thing with he situation is it's started to impact the kids. He was a bully to them. Made them feel not good enough and was so uptight around them they were better behaved for him. Basically because they are scared of him. It sounds like a similar dynamic with your husband.

Sorry but he'll just get worse. I don't know how you fix something which is fundamentally his personality.

Phineyj · 10/02/2024 22:33

Is he saving up for boarding school x 2 then?

Crumbs, maybe I'd be elegant and serene if I didn't have an 11 year old hassling me night and day...

Healthyhappymama · 10/02/2024 22:34

No way! He is unreasonable. Very difficult looking after children as it is, you are working 4 days a week and doing your absolute best by the sounds of it. He sounds very stressed out or just a prick? Either way, I would not change anything you are doing. I'd say I'm doing my best if you dont like it🖕leave and do your own house work somewhere else.

ChasingStar · 10/02/2024 22:35

Genuinely, I’m not incredibly miserable or unhappy or anything. But the main stress in my life is DH.

and it’s so easy to feel like “maybe he right and I am making a big deal out of this. Maybe it’s my problem and I do need to do better for everyone”

he can be incredible sweet and goofy and silly. Although he has always been somewhat uptight (snobby) but it’s definitely got worse the last year or so. I had horrendous PND after our second child and for a while I was pretty shit at doing anything but I really feel like I’ve found myself again and feel proud of who I am.. I don’t get how he seems to see something different

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Pashazade · 10/02/2024 22:37

Tell him to stop whining and do it himself if he's not happy. I would cease to do anything for him he's being a prick.
Honestly does he actually like you or respect you because it really doesn't sound like he does in which case I'd be considering whether staying with him is worth it. Does he listen if you say, you make me feel worthless and like I'm nothing more than a servant to you......does he really care or just want a skivvy?

Thementalloadisreal · 10/02/2024 22:38

He feels like when he gets home the house should be clean, quiet, calm. And that I should aim to facilitate this

Wow. He wants you to look after the kids but then come home to a house that doesn’t look like children live there.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 10/02/2024 22:38

Sorry, but he sounds awful OP. He seems to want a nanny/housekeeper rather than a wife.