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Growing resentment towards MIL since becoming a FTM

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IREMILPROBLEMS · 10/02/2024 01:44

Some of the major examples:
Told people I was pregnant before I wanted people to know. Denied it, then eventually admitted to telling one person. Never apologised.
Bought excessive amount of clothing, books, toys before baby was born. I held my tongue until she landed at the house with a bag full of teddies, 13 to be precise. I asked for her to keep some down at hers to save me bringing teddies up & down with me, she said no. I then thanked her but said the quantity is a bit much and I'd prefer if she just bought one because other's will want to buy teddies also, her response 'I've waited long enough, I can do what I want'. I was a bit taken back by her response but just said I'm trying to ask nicely here and then I swiftly changed the subject. She still holds a grudge about this almost 8 months later and has told other's I'll be cross with them if they buy the wrong gifts for baby.
Baby arrived, covid restrictions in hospital, no visitors permitted. She kept pushing to visit but I said your not allowed. No one visited from either side but she was annoyed with me over this.
Husband and FIL had a falling out, nothing to do with me. I kept bringing baby down to visit them each week while they never visited our house. The visits were not pleasant as they gave out about my husband and twisted the fall out (hubby was not in the wrong). Baby started making strange with them, this upset MIL so she started saying I was not socialising the baby enough, that I should be bringing a 3 month old to cafes etc. Every visit there were more comments about me needing to bring baby here and there, I would respond by saying I think she gets plenty of socialising and left it at that. Reality was they made little effort with my baby at the start hence the making strange. FIL asked if baby behaves this way with everyone and I mentioned how I was shocked that when my sister flew in and the baby was content with her immediately (she lives overseas) - no meaness meant but my MIL was very angry about that comment and made out I was pitting my family against hers.
We decided to do Christmas just the three of us. I was breastfeeding and MIL said that was why they never visited so i wanted to feel comfortable and start my own traditions. MIL was upset as she wanted the baby down. I said we'd pop in but come Christmas day my husband didn't want to call in. I popped down by myself with small gifts, MIL was very cold but I did not react and wished them well. The next day I brought baby down with me, MIL ignored me and didn't greet us, I said hello to her three times and then eventually asked if she was okay, she mumbled something. I then asked if she wanted me to leave, no response, started to turn round to leave then she said she just wasn't feeling great. She was incredibly rude and frosty to me so I made my excuse and left after 10mins. This behaviour from her really upset me. It wasn't the first time though. I then popped down again later that week and she started giving out about what I had said about my sister and she cried about Christmas day. I told her how bad her behaviour was with me, she apologised but couldn't remember acting that way. I left the house, went for a walk and phoned her to say I wasn't visiting again until her, FIL and hubby worked things out as I was being dragged into it and I was finding the visits were having a negative effect on me.
They all gathered, apologised to eachother and a clean slate was agreed. (No apology to me)
Since then she has made more of an effort to visit the baby but I can't help but feel major resentment and borderline hatred towards her. Every visit she tells the baby not to bother looking at mammy and tells me I need to socialise her more. Most recently, I was telling her a certain place done drive through coffee (ideal when baby is asleep or if its raining) and I treated myself there every fortnight. Her response was she would not think of using it because she would think of my baby and go inside so baby could see people and listen to them talking. I feel like a broken record on this subject - fyi, baby had been sightseeing on the Monday, baby sensory on the Tuesday, library and walk through local town on the Wednesday, visit to MIL on the Thursday and on the Friday MIL pops up and says this to me. I also go for daily 6km walks with the baby plus baby has literally just turned 5 months.
I am near boiling point with snapping over these constant comments and I feel completely drained. I feel like I am unknowingly in a competition with her. Telling my baby not to look at mammy, not to mind mammy etc. Really upsets me and I don't know how to respond while keeping the peace.

Help please.

OP posts:
Lattes · 10/02/2024 06:44

HoppingPavlova · 10/02/2024 06:15

Wow 70 is really old yo be a first time grandma! I just wouldn't go see her either like others have said

I would think 70yo is pretty standard? I would think I’d be mid-70’s before my sons have kids, maybe around 70 if daughter has kids as she’d need to do it sooner than the boys. I don’t know anyone who is a grandparent under 70yo!

My grandparents have just entered their late 70s and I've just entered my late 20s. They are great grandparents to my dd. I'd say late 40s and 50s is standard, maybe 60s too.

OP, your DH doesn't want a relationship with his parents so support him.

Nottodaythankyou123 · 10/02/2024 07:10

No relationship is better than a toxic one with your child watching her grandma disrespect her mum.

Also, how (and why!) do you just pop in if they live 200 miles away?

IREMILPROBLEMS · 10/02/2024 07:14

Apologise, 200 metres

OP posts:
Nottodaythankyou123 · 10/02/2024 07:17

IREMILPROBLEMS · 10/02/2024 07:14

Apologise, 200 metres

That makes more sense, I thought you must be exhausted driving all that way for a short visit! I still don’t think you should be forcing what is clearly a toxic relationship though

GreatGateauxsby · 10/02/2024 07:17

Phrases

"Dont be so unpleasant"
"Please dont say that. It's not true"
"That's a very rude/disrespectful/unpleasant thing to say"
"Mary, telling me X is very disrespectful. You wouldn't put up with it neither will i"
"If you want to carry on like this I'll have to leave / have to ask you to leave"
"Mary, This isn't appropriate behaviour for an adult"
"This kind of behavior is why we don't see you more often"

A popular one when challenged is then to say "but i was just saying!" Or "but its true"
The correct response is " well don't in future" to the former, and " your opinion is not the truth" to the latter

YouJustDoYou · 10/02/2024 07:17

You have a DH problem. Stand your ground.

EmilyTjP · 10/02/2024 07:20

Covid restrictions and no visitors only 5 months ago?!

GreyhpundGirl · 10/02/2024 07:22

Ilovecakey · 10/02/2024 05:37

Wow 70 is really old yo be a first time grandma! I just wouldn't go see her either like others have said

What a bizarre comment. One, no it's not. And two it wouldn't matter if she became a grandmother at 40 or 70, it's about being a decent human being. My dad became a first time grandparent at 75 (mum died years ago) and funnily enough he doesn't behave like this and never would.

iLovee · 10/02/2024 07:24

EmilyTjP · 10/02/2024 07:20

Covid restrictions and no visitors only 5 months ago?!

This was my first thought too!

babyproblems · 10/02/2024 07:26

I think you should stop visiting her and leave your DH to deal with her. He sounds very silent here when actually he should have told her 13 teddies is ridiculous and not ok.

ScaringMajor · 10/02/2024 07:30

So is the baby much older now and you’re still upset? Because covid was a while ago?

helpnohelpno · 10/02/2024 07:32

HoppingPavlova · 10/02/2024 06:15

Wow 70 is really old yo be a first time grandma! I just wouldn't go see her either like others have said

I would think 70yo is pretty standard? I would think I’d be mid-70’s before my sons have kids, maybe around 70 if daughter has kids as she’d need to do it sooner than the boys. I don’t know anyone who is a grandparent under 70yo!

My mum and mil were 49 and 45!! I expect I will be 50-55.

PlantDoctor · 10/02/2024 07:32

You really need to stop. Your in laws are not worth the time

FUPAgirl · 10/02/2024 07:33

I completely disagree that this is a DH problem. DH clearly wanted to go no contact, but you pushed the relationship! You need to let this go, they won't be a good influence on your DC growing up. You won't change her, you need to stay away from her.

quisensoucie · 10/02/2024 07:36

Sorry, what it 'making strange'?

MouseMama · 10/02/2024 07:38

She sounds really toxic. I think some grandmas really struggle to adjust to not being the mum. I think your MIL is clearly jealous and wants to assert herself. Just being with you is adequate socialising for a baby and you’re doing so much more so her advice is clearly bs. I think you need to distance yourself and your husband needs to step up and say she needs to stop giving you parenting advice and undermining the choices you are making. You are the mother and you decide what is best for your child. MIL can respect that or she won’t have a regular presence in the child’s life.

chantelion · 10/02/2024 07:38

IREMILPROBLEMS · 10/02/2024 01:56

Hubby has told me not to but I figure that a grandparent and grandchild relationship is important so I try to put my true feelings aside and pretend all is well. I'd like to deal with this as the bigger person but just feeling so drained. MIL falls out with everyone and is constantly giving out about someone, guess it's my turn. I just hate the idea of her telling false stories about me. In my head I am done with her but I need to put on a happy front as they are my hubby's parents after all and live 200m away.

Well then this is your fault really. Your own husband is telling you not to bother and here you are running after them desperate and forcing a relationship. They aren't nice to their own child, their DIL, so what makes you think they would be good to your child??
On Christmas Day why did running to them when your own husband didn't want to go?? That's your fault.
Stop being so desperate to maintain a relationship that you are willing to accept even toxic people in your child's life just to say that they have a GP. Your problems will stop when you stop chasing after them.

gazpachosoupday · 10/02/2024 07:40

I dont think you have a DH problem, I think he has a DW problem.

If I had a massive falling out with my family and my partner continued to go and visit them, especially when I was not in the wrong, I would feel pretty unsupported.

You need to follow his lead in his family, not try and force, what could be, a pretty damaging relationship between your child and his parents.

otherwayup · 10/02/2024 07:40

Don't make the mistake I made op.
I was just like you, my mil was awful at times, so rude, needy and opinionated but I worried that my dc deserved a relationship with their gran and persevered.

Dh would often go no contact with her but I used to still meet her and encourage dc to bond with her etc
Well dc are adults now and are pretty much nc with her themselves, they weren't that old when they began to see her for who she was and now spend absolutely no time with at all by choice!

chantelion · 10/02/2024 07:41

be the bigger person and not give mil ammunition

Ammunition against who or what? You are building them up to be much bigger in your life than they actually are. They are just two, mean old people who will never change and have lost relationships with their own child so leave them to it. Stop exposing yourself by choice to them. You are giving them way too much importance and power in your life. Your child doesn't deserve to have toxic people in her life.

IREMILPROBLEMS · 10/02/2024 07:41

There was an outbreak in the hospital 5 months ago, they still test patients so had to put measures in place. Tbh no visitors when trying to figure out breastfeeding was a blessing and if I am fortunate to have a 2nd, covid or no covid, I'll not allow visitors.

OP posts:
Nicole1111 · 10/02/2024 07:44

GreatGateauxsby · 10/02/2024 07:17

Phrases

"Dont be so unpleasant"
"Please dont say that. It's not true"
"That's a very rude/disrespectful/unpleasant thing to say"
"Mary, telling me X is very disrespectful. You wouldn't put up with it neither will i"
"If you want to carry on like this I'll have to leave / have to ask you to leave"
"Mary, This isn't appropriate behaviour for an adult"
"This kind of behavior is why we don't see you more often"

A popular one when challenged is then to say "but i was just saying!" Or "but its true"
The correct response is " well don't in future" to the former, and " your opinion is not the truth" to the latter

This is great.

This woman needs boundaries. It’s likely she has gone her whole life doing as she pleases because people, like your husband, doubt she can change. The more you can show her being a cow = no dil and baby, the more likely she is to modify her behaviour. That’s why it’s so important to actually leave if you’ve used the one about leaving, as you have to show her you mean business.

quisensoucie · 10/02/2024 07:45

IREMILPROBLEMS · 10/02/2024 01:56

Hubby has told me not to but I figure that a grandparent and grandchild relationship is important so I try to put my true feelings aside and pretend all is well. I'd like to deal with this as the bigger person but just feeling so drained. MIL falls out with everyone and is constantly giving out about someone, guess it's my turn. I just hate the idea of her telling false stories about me. In my head I am done with her but I need to put on a happy front as they are my hubby's parents after all and live 200m away.

Such a toxic situation is far worse than no contact. Don't feel you have to follow societal norms here; it is your baby, you and your DH should parent in the way you feel best.
Too often others think they have rights over your child. They do not.
Big girl pants, tell MIL to get her arse into a better way of thinking or she doesn't see the child at all.

AnnaMagnani · 10/02/2024 07:49

I got as far as you kept up weekly visits even when they had fallen out with your DH.

What were you thinking? This isn't a MIL or a DH problem, it's a YOU problem.

What possessed you to keep seeing people who are rude and don't speak to their own son?

Back off massively now.

Icepop79 · 10/02/2024 07:50

YouJustDoYou · 10/02/2024 07:17

You have a DH problem. Stand your ground.

Disagree with this completely. DH has clearly had a lifetime of his parents’ toxic behaviour and has distanced himself from them. The OP is not supporting him in this and is instead exposing his child to the same toxicity he has managed to extricate himself from.

If a woman posted on here that she wanted nothing to do with her parents but her husband kept on taking their child to see them, including on Christmas Day and was then coming home upset by how horrid they’d been, mumsnet would be up in arms about the unreasonableness of the husband.