To think how on earth can Biden be President

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Just been watching the news about Biden's memory. He really needs to step down IMHO.

I agree it's potentially dangerous, @Tiddlywinks63, but never underestimate just how sick many Americans are of underwriting other nations' security, or of seeing one hand stretched out for cash and the other flicking the Vs at them

The words he chose are stupid tub-thumping of course, but the wretched man knows how to push buttons and the principle will go down very well with his supporters - and possibly many waverers too

Same here. TRUMP 24.

Am pessimistic though as if he couldn't beat sleepy Joe as the encumbent then I can't see him doing it now. Could be close or a landslide to Joe.

I read the US political forums and apparently a lot of pressure is being put on Joe to stand down by senior Dems including Obama. There are still rumours that if he did, Michelle would challenge Kamala for the Nomination. Also Jill to persuade him. He's stubborn though and says he has a right to stand again, which he does. It's up to Kamala now but she won't pres the button for some unknown reason. "I work with him every day and he's fine" She must know he's not though.

@Friedchickenrocks
the word is "incumbent"
and whatever forums you are reading do not seem to relate to US electoral rules

Completely agree with your point too, @Puzzledandpissedoff . Realistically Biden will continue to decline. The age we live in means there’s no way they could hope to pull off something similar to what happened following Woodrow Wilson’s stroke.
I don’t follow American politics as much as I used to but I could see something wasn’t right with Biden in 2021. It’s been stark from what I’ve seen in the last year though.

I read the US political forums and apparently a lot of pressure is being put on Joe to stand down by senior Dems including Obama. There are still rumours that if he did, Michelle would challenge Kamala for the Nomination

Like so much else it's probably just that - rumours - but if Michelle really could be persuaded to run I'd expect them to drop Biden like a brick

However she's said she doesn't want it, so unless her mind can be changed (and it's getting a bit late) it looks as if they'll be stuck with him

I find it so weird that all top politicians in America are so ancient. Both Trump and Biden are way too old - and people seem to forget that Trump is only 2 years younger than Biden. I know this is an awful thing to say but I really hope nature takes its course and neither of them make it to the final line. Trump will be a disaster for America and the world, and Biden being where he is enables Trump. Awful times we are living in.

For sure he will hand over to Kamala during his term and she will be the candidate next time. Same if he dies.

FFS
forums do not take into account electoral law.

The candidate has to be in the primary to be on the state ballot (see Colorado)
so a US party cannot parachute in a randomer at a late date
(no Liz Truss or Rishi in the USA)

The Democrats have burned their boats
as have the GOP
but at least NATO HQ are kicking off

@Friedchickenrocks so why not just run Kamala now? Lack of popularity. Leaving swing voters swinging away from voting for Biden and a likely Kamala presidency.

Interestingly, BBC's Americast has suggested Trump might choose one of his sons as his running mate, then stand down after a couple of years, letting chosen son in for remainder of the term before running in the 2028 election to create a Trump dynasty. 😱

I think the world of Michelle Obama. She has all the personal attributes the world needs in the American president: high intelligence, great values, personal integrity, etc. And I believe she learned a lot about the job through proximity.

If Michelle wanted to go into politics, starting with a Congressional or Senate seat or perhaps a Cabinet job, I would cheer her loudly. But no matter her personal qualities and prior proximity, the presidency of the US is not a suitable entry level political job.

Except if your previous qualifications included organising the Allied victory in Europe, I guess that sufficed. But then that was a highly political job in its own way.

I don’t think she’s a dud, she’s just not very popular

Biden is clearly past his best and not up to being President now. But he’s a million times better than Trump.

Trump is a bought and compromised russian asset. He should be in prison and not in the White House.

I really hope both parties can find someone better to put up for President.

You can see that the EU is trying to prepare itself for life with an unreliable, nut job USA. But we’d be much better off inside that club.

I also thought Trump was getting his daughter Ivanka ready to be the first women president

as much as I admire Michelle Obama it’s far too late and the Obamas are far more loved abroad than they are in the US (as Blair, Thatcher and Johnson are admired in the US far more than here)

I agree with this and would add that to date she has shown less than no interest.

So what if Joe stood up and announced he was withdrawing at the Convention? They'd have to choose someone else....

Pressure is being put on the Attorney General and Kamala now by Senators to trigger article 25. Seems more US people are finally waking up to his problems.

Trump would most likely choose Ivanka for VP but can't as they're both registered as Florida voters. The President and VP cannot come from the same State. Anyone know where his sons are registered? Everyone assumed Trump would be registered in NY where his business are but no it's Florida.

It does seem inevitable now that Biden will have to be taken aside and told he can’t run. The Dems will be looking at terrible fallout if he goes fully incapable between now and the election, or during his term should he win.

None of this justifies a vote for Trump. But it does place his opponents in a dangerous situation which they’ve inflicted on themselves.

But no matter her personal qualities and prior proximity, the presidency of the US is not a suitable entry level political job.

Donald Trump took the presidency as an entry-level political job.

Previously he was the bloke on the Apprentice.

From a US political forum.

1. Another way the DNC could get rid of him is to simply pay him to step down. The Biden family never could resist money. And by now they know that the corruption well has run dry. I bet that's what they plan to do!

Sounds realistic to me - and yes, it's the issue of him getting worse between now and November which brings it to the fore, because sadly that's unlikely not to happen

Yes, and look what happened.

Yep, it seems Biden isn't untypical when it comes to confusion about where anywhere non-US is.