Doctors right to strike, should it be removed?

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Hello
Several people within our families are doctors. Most started out wanting to care for people, but as time goes on, the reality of money, and spending comes into play for some.

PM Rishi Sunak in a tv interview partly balmed doctors strikes for failing to bring down hospital waiting lists. I rarely agree with a politician but in this case, I know he is right. EG, myself, my OH, one of our children and grandchildren have had their appointments cancelled because of strike impacts. Our children and grandchildren do have private healthcare but those do not cover pre-existing or you end up on the NHS with chorionic conditions.

Our police officers and armed forces personnel are not allowed to strike

AIBU to expect a no-strike agreement for doctors and possibly nurses. If agreed, give them 9 months' notice about no-strike agreements. I honestly believe hardly anyone would leave and those leaving would have possibly left the NHS anyway as some do and go to another country just like we get doctors from abroad. Their pay claims could be easily managed in the same way police/armed forces pay rises are managed as well of those MP's.

Failing to bring down hospital w/l lies with the present government and the growing of these waiting lists, the doctor's strikes have certainly made things a lot worse. We are regularly hearing on our news media about growing waiting lists and people waiting for urgent treatments and the waiting times in A&E departments etc

AIBU to feel that doctors should be made to sign a no-strike agreement with a few month's notice to have the no-strike agreement in place before next winter? Also, have a pay body set up like the ones our MP's enjoy.

Everybody should have the legal right to withdraw their labour.

Striking is the backbone of fair labour and avoiding exploitation. No one should ever have the right to strike taken away.

No. HTH.

No.

No.

The reality of money comes into play for most people unless you're already really well off and can work voluntarily.

I don't go to work for fuzzy warm feelings and I wouldn't expect a doctor or nurse to either. I work for money 🤷🏼‍♀️.

If they can’t strike they will work to their contract more strictly which will have the same effect anyway.

No. They should have the right to strike for better pay and conditions.

No

Hi there I am a NHS midwife working on the labour ward. Can you imagine working all night long for 12.5 hours from 7:30 pm to 8 am without a tea break? I have done it on a few occasions. We have all done it, doctors and midwives alike. When NHS staff strikes it's about patients' safety, not inconveniencing others.

Did you read what I posted about the groups of people where they do not have a right to strike or are you just choosing to ignore that?

YABU. We don't have live in a totalitarian communist planned economy where the government decides what jobs people are allocated. If doctors aren't allowed to withdraw their labour temporarily to demonstrate their dissatisfaction with their pay and conditions then ultimately they will leave the profession and we will fail to attract enough good quality entrants.

We already have a shortage of doctors, and it's becoming less and less attractive as a career to go into. Bashing doctors and driving their pay down is not the way to solve any of the issues in the British healthcare system.

Good luck recruiting. Crap wages, long hours, lack of money in the NHS and then no right to strike too. Yeah, that’d really improve morale and sort out the waiting lists.

This thread is from the same people who brought you a million VAT threads recently.

They are being treated like shit. My DC trained because they thought they'd have an interesting and well paid respected career which contributed to society's well being. They can't plan holidays and are badly paid. After six years at medical school , four years working in hospitals and now in A and E where incidentally they were part of a small team which saved five lives.

I fully support the doctors strike,

yabu. Striking is another form of communication and is essential. It means the strikers have reached breaking point.

Most of the doctors I know are hard working, dedicated individuals who would only strike with the appropriate emergency cover provided, and when they felt they have no other choice.

Did you read what I posted about the groups of people where they do not have a right to strike or are you just choosing to ignore that?

They should get their right to strike back.

No. The NHS practically has a monopoly on healthcare in the UK, the private sector is so tiny in comparison it basically doesn't count. If you remove the right to strike you basically force doctors to either accept whatever pay deal the government decides or give up their career. Do you think that's right?

I thank you and all NHS staff for everything they do, especially these days where most of the public is aware re long hours etc as per your post.

However,i the doctor strikes not about pay, do you concur?

Agreed.

Yanbu

As long as they are given enough notice I agree. Other groups aren't allowed and I feel lives must take priority.

I read that. I think those professionals should have the right to strike in defence of their pay and conditions as well.

I will always defend the right to strike and wholeheartedly support the Doctors / Nurses strikes.

Fair enough.I misread your initial post

YABU.

DS2 & DDIL are nurses, DH served in the RAF for 35yrs and DS1 has been serving in the army for 10yrs so far. None of them are being treated well. I can guarantee if the police or military had the right to strike they’d be out. The answer isn’t taking one group of people’s rights away, it’s making everyone’s working conditions better and paying them what they’re worth.

More lives will be lost when there is a shortage of staff as the current ones can't afford to keep doing their job and no one new wants to train. It's already happening.

Striking is one of the only tools the NHS has to try and pressure the government into funding the NHS properly and more will die without it.

Can I go on strike too? No, I cannot

Prison officer ... we don't get paid enough either. We are not allowed to go on strike