The king has cancer

[TheBayLady]

Wow. What a shock

"Just a guy on TV"???? Staggered!!

What, like someone on EastEnders or Corrie?

I...don't...think...so....!!

So you telling someone who is shocked that people are shocked that it is wrong to decide what people are shocked about...

Who are you to decide whether people are shocked or not?

What an odious post.

You haven't got the fucking faintest clue what I was doing when Diana, Princess of Wales died. I don't speak in that ridiculous pseudo-accent you have attempted badly to use. Neither am I a sycophant. I am a decent-thinking person who sees the best in people where I can.

Your accepting of a public holiday for a royal death as a republican is utterly, totally hypocritical.

The manner in which you have addressed me is indicative of your character. Not impressed.

This is just tedious.

I did not tell anyone that they should be shocked.

I have the right to be shocked or not as I wish.

Now leg it.

You wouldn't give it a second thought? Lovely.

So what exactly did you do about the thousands who passed away today? What will you be doing tomorrow? What are your expectations?

They're clearly much more than just famous people

Well, not to everyone. I would classify them in the same category as celebrities on TV like others have said i.e. George Michael, Freddie Mercury, MJ etc etc.

He's more like a celebrity.

To be honest the poster hit the nail on the head to most people they are people we see on TV . I'll say from the start I'm Scottish and I find it hard to get to grips England's obsession with the royals . I've never got it when I see people say online God save the King/Queen . It comes across as funny ,I've never met a Scottish person who chats about them . I was an armed forces wife so though they didn't feature in much conversations . Photographs of her bloody everywhere though . And I had to toast her a few times , though I was a bit tippsy .

England's obsession.... it's not a hive mind, all manner of views are expressed.

@Maireas Oh yeah I forgot about N . Ireland . I was taken to a club by fil and was expected to stand when the night was over . Got pulled up by fil , no sitting there for God save the Queen .

Someone using the term 'dying breed' says a LOT. To be shocked does not in itself demonstrate decency or care, could be they're hierarchy-obsessed numpties who love blingy invented traditions

I think the late Queen changed when her mother died, she seemed freer. Apparently her mother liked to poke her nose in having been a queen herself although not regnant, she allegedly was the one who pushed for Charles marrying Diana and she stopped Margaret marrying the man she loved. Once she died the Queen seemed to have more self confidence, things could change and not just be a continuation of George VI reign. She certainly dressed better too.

Not the point of the thread but people it's prostate... not prostRate!

Northern Ireland? Not England? Again, different to England. All sorts of views. Of course the UK is a free country, it's all open to debate, but "England" doesn't contain identical people with identical views.

This thread has taken an interesting turn given the comments about being shocked or not ... I had to look it up as both sides of the arguments I could see has merit. So... this is a definitions and distinction between being shocked by something (a feeling), and shocking ( the situation itself). So someone being shocked by the news is indeed valid as it conveys a feeling ( we all experience feelings differently ...)...but is it shocking a situation in itself given cancer stats of 1 in 2 and his age...? No... see below 😉

"......Please remember that we use the -ed forms, “surprised” and “shocked” when we are talking about people's feelings about a situation. We use the -ing forms, “surprising” and “shocking” when we want to talk about a situation itself...."

Ya think???

I think you're right - she seemed more free to be herself.

Now I wouldn't be seen in anything she wore but I loved her use of colour. Apparently Anne wore one of her coats the other day.

I don't care what age someone is. It still has the potential to be shocking when one hears the initial news that someone has had a serious diagnosis.

However, as I said, in retrospect, it was more that we got a shock, which is probably more apt for something quite fleeting.

It was also a shock to hear that the Queen was dying, and she was 96! I think people expected her to go on forever.

@Maireas I do know England has different views , but as a whole it is a royalist country ,most people don't have a choice .I have lived there . Also N .Ireland have lived there too . Have family there it's a very complicated place .But in some places you can't really voice your own opinions , believe me .

Well, we live in a democracy. We have a right to an opinion, @donteatthedaisies0 - I'm just challenging your assertion upthread that England has an obsession - that's clearly nonsense because people in England have a variety of views. Believe me.

@mayorofcasterbridge hopefully Anne wore one of her coats to save some public funds?

she stopped Margaret marrying the man she loved.

I think Mumsnet would have agreed with the QM on that one.

"I am 22 years old. I'm in love with a recently divorced man sixteen years older than me, who has two children aged seven and ten. ..."

Townsend knew Margaret when she was a child. His interest in her was weird and gross.

No idea. You would have to ask her. Anne has consistently worn clothes that she has had for years though.

LTB!