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The king has cancer

584 replies

TheBayLady · 05/02/2024 18:01

Wow. What a shock

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Rosejasmine · 06/02/2024 23:25

I’m not shocked, 50% of us will get cancer in the UK, he is in his 70s and he is just flesh and blood like the rest of us.
He is fortunate in that he will have the best doctors and the best treatment possible and it’s not going to kill him any time soon.

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:29

doilooklikeicare · 06/02/2024 23:02

Would they have been shocked by 75 year old Bill next door having being diagnosed with cancer?

Yes, of course I would. I am a decent, sentient human being.

I was shocked when my father died aged 81, because it was also unexpected!

Should I not have been? Is there something wrong with you? Because I don't think it's me....!!

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:31

doilooklikeicare · 06/02/2024 23:01

@mayorofcasterbridge again why's it shocking a 75 year old man has cancer?

He's not the number because he happens to be royalty!

I'd be shocked by one of the royal children having cancer.

So stop telling me I'm callous because I'm not shocked!

I'm not shocked, because it's not shocking!!

Of course it's shocking! Who do you think you are to invalidate other people's feelings? As I said my adult children aged 26 and 24 were shocked. TG I have brought them up to be decent, caring people, because we are a dying breed clearly!

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:32

doilooklikeicare · 06/02/2024 23:02

Would they have been shocked by 75 year old Bill next door having being diagnosed with cancer?

I imagine they would have, because they are decent, caring human beings!

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:34

LoveLifeBeHappy · 06/02/2024 23:08

I don’t know a single person other than my mum whose even mentioned it.

Well there is something missing in the people you know. Anyone I know was initially shocked!!

Diskneedisney · 06/02/2024 23:35

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:06

My mum had some hospital chemo and some chemo at home in the form of medication. That was nearly 18 years ago, can't believe that! She only got 2 sessions of hospital chemo before she became too ill to continue and died less than 6 months after diagnosis, still a relatively young woman.

We really didn't have the best experience with the NHS in many ways, but I wish the King all the best, because what we went through was nothing whatsoever to do with him. There would be something wrong with a country not providing the best of care, especially as he will be paying for it, to its Head of State.

So sorry about your mum. To be clear I was referring to IV chemo not oral chemo at home.

i think you’re misunderstanding what I mean, it’s not the good care should be withheld from Charles as a matter of principle but rather his swift diagnosis and treatment is sadly a luxury afforded to few

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:39

Diskneedisney · 06/02/2024 23:35

So sorry about your mum. To be clear I was referring to IV chemo not oral chemo at home.

i think you’re misunderstanding what I mean, it’s not the good care should be withheld from Charles as a matter of principle but rather his swift diagnosis and treatment is sadly a luxury afforded to few

Thank you, it's a long time ago now but it still stings! I was just saying that chemo is available that you can have at home, as well as being wired up to it.

As head of state, of course Charles should have the best of care - and also of course he will be paying for it too - but everyone should have the best of care, and the NHS has been decimated to the extent that not everyone does.

I am actually disgusted with people. I can't believe how many horrible ones are out there!

LoveLifeBeHappy · 06/02/2024 23:57

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:34

Well there is something missing in the people you know. Anyone I know was initially shocked!!

I really don’t understand why. An old man in his mid-70s has cancer. I mean, I wish him well, and I hope he recovers. If he doesn’t, it’s sad, but I think most people will just go about their day and put Netflix on.

doilooklikeicare · 06/02/2024 23:57

@mayorofcasterbridge stop deciding that anyone that doesn't think the same as you, with "shock" about a frankly non shocking event is lacking in empathy or compassion!

You clearly are a bat shit crazy royalist and therefore no one can express normal emotions!

He's a 75 year old man, diagnosed with cancer

It.is.not.shocking

doilooklikeicare · 06/02/2024 23:59

@mayorofcasterbridge are you confusing shock with empathy... do you understand the difference?

MidnightSerenader · 07/02/2024 00:01

Honestly - why do people give a shit who is, or isn’t, shocked?!?

I was shocked when an 81YO family friend with diagnosed with a brain and spine tumour. Am I stupid to be so, given her age? Well, so what…? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Likewise, if people aren’t shocked by the King’s diagnosis, it doesn’t mean they’re psychopaths.

Such silly stuff to quibble about…

LoveLifeBeHappy · 07/02/2024 00:06

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 23:29

Yes, of course I would. I am a decent, sentient human being.

I was shocked when my father died aged 81, because it was also unexpected!

Should I not have been? Is there something wrong with you? Because I don't think it's me....!!

Being shocked about your father passing away is normal, most of us would be.

However, 75 year old Dave from the pub getting cancer is not shocking. We wish him well, and good luck. But that’s about it.

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RickDaglass · 07/02/2024 00:09

I thought the Saxe-Coburg & Gotha family were lizards 🦎

mayorofcasterbridge · 07/02/2024 00:14

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You are the one who needs to get a grip, you insulting person!

mayorofcasterbridge · 07/02/2024 00:14

doilooklikeicare · 06/02/2024 23:59

@mayorofcasterbridge are you confusing shock with empathy... do you understand the difference?

I understand that some people are horrible!

An empathetic person would be shocked.

mayorofcasterbridge · 07/02/2024 00:17

Luckily my faith in people isn't shaken. I've known for years that some people are just horrible.

doilooklikeicare · 07/02/2024 00:25

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MidnightSerenader · 07/02/2024 00:28

mayorofcasterbridge · 07/02/2024 00:17

Luckily my faith in people isn't shaken. I've known for years that some people are just horrible.

There’s nothing wrong with being shocked.

There’s nothing wrong with not being shocked.

mayorofcasterbridge · 07/02/2024 00:38

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Have a good look in the mirror!

mayorofcasterbridge · 07/02/2024 00:41

doilooklikeicare · 06/02/2024 23:59

@mayorofcasterbridge are you confusing shock with empathy... do you understand the difference?

How condescending can you be???!

Of course I understand the difference, I am an intelligent, educated, empathetic woman!!

doilooklikeicare · 07/02/2024 00:51

@mayorofcasterbridge you're confusing empathy and shock or you're on a wind up?

niadainud · 07/02/2024 04:35

I think the contention here rests on the definition of the word "shocking" and whether you take it to mean a) finding something upsetting, or b) being surprised.

It's understandable to find anyone's cancer diagnosis upsetting, but it surely becomes less shocking with increasing age. That's just statistics, not any measure of empathy.