To think that people who agree with VAT on private school fees but not on university fees, are hypocrites?

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If Labour add VAT to private school fees, they should also add VAT to university fees. Or no VAT on either. The principle and rule, should be the same.

Why is only private school education being platformed. I think we all know why.

Idontfinkso · Today 13:32
‘Like many private school parents, I have one child in state and the other in private.’

ooh, did you just go with the favourite? Let me guess, the boy?

Wow that’s quite high on the list of mumsnet most spiteful comments .
Idontfinkso presumably though you enjoyed the fact your friend’s parents son who went to private school turned out to be a ‘fuckwit’ who was bullied.

I also live in London, and know lots of Doctors. Only the Consultants can afford London private school fee's.

What would be the point in adding VAT to university fees though. The tax payer subsidises the fees anyway (to some extent) so they would just give more. Same with childcare fees.

Businesses can’t be forced into doing anything for free. Charities possibly but of course Labours tax will put paid to that

The tax payer can’t afford to pay for kids to go to Uni. That’s quite obvious!

Once a kid reaches Uni age they can get a loan, for their own education. Kids of higher earning parents loose out on the potential to borrow the highest rate already and parents have to top up. ( although tbh this is at £25000 now so quite low, but it’s a gradual reduction)

Post secondary school I do not have a problem with people paying, before that there is a free educational system available for all.

If Labour deem taxing education a moral and right thing to do then I believe they should follow through and tax education.
Universities offer education……don’t they

Agree
What a disgusting thing to say

Yes, universities offer education but the tax payer pays for some of it already so you would be charging VAT with one hand and then just giving it back. What would be the point in that?

University is state funded unlike private schools. Not the same

Think of those poor people though. They are so concerned they might have to forgo their fourth holiday of the year. 😢

And there we go. That is exactly why.

Agree
What a disgusting thing to say.

Kandalama -
Private school parents on here - and indeed students - can be insulted with impunity and are exempt from normal mumsnet self-regulation.
They can be described as thick, ghastly, not to be employed at any cost (see post above by idontfinkso) greedy, fat, ugly……any insult you like.
Still…..if it gives the posters pleasure I suppose…..

"My comprehension is just fine thank you." Sorry but it's really not.

"It's just when confronted with posts made up of verbose loaded rhetoric that has been peddled a zillion times before that I tend to lose interest." I choose my language very carefully, I'm glad for you to take a few seconds to read it. If not, maybe choose "not responding" rather than "responding without understanding".

Especially since the one in private might well be there because of SEN not adequately supported in the state sector.

Which is such as shame
Education brings knowledge and the ability to listen and educate yourself when given the chance of ‘speaking’ to those in situations different from your own is extremely important in appreciating the world around us.

Those unwilling to educate themselves will forever be blinkered

Very good point!

Hopefully the privilege is starting to shift. Of our new grads none are privately educated- that was deliberate, part of an inclusivity drive, and it’s so refreshing to have young staffers with some life and actual work experience.

idontfinkso can I ask what profession you work in?
When you deliberately excluded any privately educated applicants did you warn them in advance not to apply as they wouldn’t be hired on principal?
Do you always ask for details of education on application forms?

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same outcome as taxing private schools then!

We always do blind applications
We don’t even ask above Maths, English and Art what the other GCSEs are. As there are some subjects not available to the state sector so it would hint at their school.

Applicants send through portfolios of work and we ask them to design a project over 24hours.

Thats it
We also don’t ask for sex ( names are A Smith, no title ), country of origin, nationality…..absolutely nothing

To us they are a set of qualifications, portfolio, set design piece and why they want to work for us.

All forms of discrimination are disgusting.

If they were recruiting ethically they would operate blind recruitment where the name of the school and university attended by candidates is not considered as part of the criteria.

"none are privately educated- that was deliberate, part of an inclusivity drive, "

wow. this really is 2+2=5 stuff. I mean, hiring people where you see potential not based on qualifications...fair enough....but excluding people in order to be more exclusive....wow.

If they were recruiting ethically they would operate blind recruitment where the name of the school and university attended by candidates is not considered as part of the criteria.

Yes indeed but then if they operate blind recruitment, how will they stop some poshos slipping through the net?
I suppose their accents at the interview will give the game away.

Indeed !
Jealousy breeds contempt.

Interesting how suddenly the notion that a tax on all Uni education may affect their darlings has made so many so defensive.

Oo dear!

It won't effect university students though.

No because private schools are not funded by the taxes.

If the government add VAT to school fees then how does this affect English 6th form colleges (high proportion are private)?

Also if in the distant future we rejoined the EU (I can but dream!) would we have to remove VAT given that taxing education is banned in the EU?