Why am I being asked by the NHS if my 8 month old baby 'still identifies as the gender assigned at birth?'

[Beatricebotterx]

We had a medical concern with our 8 month old baby, so I rang 111 for advice, we got directed to a lovely nurse to ask further questions, all going well until she asked....

'Does she identify as the gender assigned at birth?'

Oh wait a minute, let me just ASK her..

Surely parents wouldn't have made that decision to 'change the gender' of their baby?

What is going on, I understand the question may need to be asked for older teenagers/adults but a baby?!?!

Aibu to feel a bit annoyed and confused?

It shows a complete lack of common sense by those in charge. It needs pushback or it will become the norm. And by that I don’t mean being arsey to nurses, technicians, etc but complaining to the trust. Do they get Smarties from Stonewall for each idiotic question that is asked?

just proforma - last time I phoned I was asked if I was the patient (yes) followed up by "is the patient conscious and breathing?"... umm yes oddly enough I am.

Going back to OP is a really silly question to ask regarding a baby though - if I'm honest not a question I'm in favour of at all in regard to anyone but I suppose that everything is so PC now they have to ask it whether they want to or not

That's nuts

My DH recently went for minor surgery, which was an op that only a male could have. Before he went into theatre he had to answer:-
'is there any chance you may be pregnant?'
'No I'm a man'
' I have to ask everyone under 55, men can be pregnant too'
Me and DH 'no they can't'
'Well i just have to ask everyone under 55'
Me and DH 'why?'
'I don't really know'
We were looking at each other thinking 'WTF?!'

@Mumoftwo1312
"Do you smoke? A) I currently smoke, B) I have never smoked, C) I used to smoke but now I quit."

She was 1 week old lol how could she have smoked in the past but now quit?

Well you know, they grow up so fast nowadays don't they?

Society has gone insane.

I wonder if future generations are in for regressive weirdness in terms of what is acceptable/not acceptable. Extremes tend to promote backlashes- like the rise of Andrew Tate style misogyny.

In 30 -40 years all the young people with strange ideas will be in government setting policy. What will the young generations then think of it?

When the scan shows a penis or vagina. Which then decides the type of clothing the baby can wear, the colour their room is painted, what the pool of names the parents choose from is etc.

There have been many posts on here about someone's friend having a girl/boy and asking if a piece of clothing is "suitable" based on the baby's genitals and the expectations formed from that.

@slashlover there are indeed a set of stereotypes associated with being a boy or a girl. To say that is being "assigned a gender" is a bit of a reach.

' I have to ask everyone under 55, men can be pregnant too'
I wouldn't have let a supposedly qualified medic who'd just spouted that anywhere near me.

If their grasp of human physiology is so poor, they literally can't be trusted to differentiate their arse from their elbow. Or indeed yours.

I have to register and create baby patient files for work so even at 1 day old we have to fill out their sexuality which I pointed out was ...... beep..... so I put client not asked.

Every single baby born in our area we have to tick this box on some random form purely for whatever report they want to create that says they know XYZ about their clients.... it's like software developers cannot think of a tiny code that reads a client's date of birth and defaults these options or removes them from report runs

It's the same with ethnicity I don't care what you are but we have to tick a box ( I appreciate in certain circumstances it is helpful to know e.g. increase blood donors)

So my personal opinion it's more about poor software design that causes these problems, and the poor nurse was just repeating a question she probably hates asking to ever single person and had a brain blip

Oh that's fucking ridiculous.
Tell them she says she's a carrot.

My MIL in her 70's keeps being asked of she's pregnant at any Dr appointment/phone call. She gets really angry about it even though she knows they have to ask it, it is beyond stupid.

I haven't read the whole thread but the results of the AIBU poll are very reassuring, I have to say (95% YANBU with 1157 votes as I am seeing it now.) Anyone working in EDI depts in the public sector should be taking note of this.

Don't be daft. I'm left and I see it's clearly ridiculous, and potentially dangerous.

I would say standard questions they have to ask... the same as I'm always asked in the x Ray dept if I might be pregnant ROFL I'm nearly 62 and 'it's' healed up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They don’t have to ask it.

If they asked me I would probably say “ maybe I am, as I’ve not had a period for 15 years. What do you think? What’s your medical advice ? “

Marxist? He was a dialectical materialist.There's nothing in Das Kapital about pink brains 🧠 or gendered souls.

Ah cool I always wondered if there was actually people who did the whole gender neutral thing- was it hard?

But those questions don't assume you follow a certain religion. Those questions ask if you fundamentally follow a religion... or none at all.

Asking if your baby identifies as a gender is making the massive assumption that you believe in gender ideology.

@Mittemucci

Ah cool I always wondered if there was actually people who did the whole gender neutral thing- was it hard?

I didn’t bring my children up gender neutral or as any kind of gender, because I don’t believe in gender ideology.

Why would it be hard - that’s like asking someone who is an atheist if it was hard to bring their child up as neither Shia nor Sunni Muslim.

It wasn’t hard to bring up my children as non Muslims because I’m not Muslim and I don’t believe in the teachings of Islam.

please oh please @Mittemucci tell me that you don’t have children ?

Stupid response. My children have a sex.

Eyyy? What… I misunderstand… you don’t believe in … gender?

if you kids don’t have a gender, then by definition… they are gender neutral…..?

Not quite sure how is this related to you kids not being muslim…. But I guess if your kids don’t believe in Islam, then be definition, they’re not muslim…

or is there some kind of deeper subtext statement your making here that I just don’t understand….

stupid? That’s not very nice.

all kids have a sex.
all of them also have a gender, unless the parents care that much that they decide to opt out of a world wide social construct and define their kids as having no gender, or the commonly understood term … gender neutral…

Why are you constantly arguing with people when you haven't the first clue? 🤦‍♀️

In the past, the terms were more interchangeable. However, in recent years (especially since trans issues have arisen), sex is understood to be biological, ie,you’re born male or by female, whilst gender is understood to be whether you like wearing ‘boys clothes’ or ‘girls clothes’ to put it simply.

Riverlee · 02/02/2024 20:49

I would probably reply with a sarcastic reply ‘ I’ll just ask my dc that, shall I?’

LOL, they need more people reacting like that not only, but laughing them off , so they ( who are they really though? Who writes that crap? Surely not the poor little employees on 30 000 a year )